there is no off no neutral gear in leadership you got to always be looking always be looking

for people always keep an eye out your your volunteer pitch probably shouldn't be we got nobody

to do this can you help us right it should be we get this awesome opportunity to lead our congregation and

worship every weekend. We're looking for people who are passionate about that. You know,

like people want to be a part of something that is making a difference. Welcome to the

Worship Rob's podcast, where we aim to entertain, encourage, and equip worship

and tech leaders all around the world. Look, we all know that serving in worship and production

is great, but the problems... Those are real.

Thanks for joining us as we dive into today's episode

with our host, Brian Tabor.

Ladies and gentlemen, welcome to episode 377

of the Worship Probbs podcast live from worship 424.

That's so awesome, man. That never gets old. I got to tell you. It never gets old.

And this is one of our favorite things we get to do. You know, so much of what we do is

online, on social media or whatever. So to get to

be here, and normally I'm just in my basement. And this is my wife, Kim. A lot of times she's upstairs

in our kitchen. And so we're interviewing somebody who might be in Australia or Nashville or California or

wherever. And so to get to be with you in person is just always a thrill.

So we're so glad that you're here.

This is our first time at Worship 424.

Are you guys having a great time?

Yeah, it's amazing.

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