Welcome to Is This Real Life, a Bravo podcast that relates our favorite shows to our own lives in the world around us.

I'm your host, Mandy Sleutzer. Let's get to it.

Hi, everyone. I hope you had a good week. We got the Beverly Hills trailer and it looks fantastic. I'm excited for that franchise for the first time in years. And I'm not sure exactly what it is. It might be the Dorete versus Erica. It might be, I mean, I don't really count on Kyle for actually

sharing a whole lot about her life. But this new person, Amanda, seems like she's going to

shake some things up. It sounds like Jennifer Tilly gets frustrated with Sutton and that I

want to see. I'm just, I'm here for it, guys. I am very excited for this next coming week,

going to hopefully BravoCon, a little nervous about the airport situation. It's not looking

great. But, you know, I don't know, living on a prayer here. Try to get to Vegas.

Well, I have a treat for all of you because Melissa Reich is back for M&M hour.

And I'm so excited to get to chat with her.

We discuss Potomac, Salt Lake, and O.C.

And speaking of O.C, I just wanted to address last

week's podcast because a lot of people, I think, were very upset that I was not condemning

Gretchen for liking transphobic and homophobic posts. And I just want to be very clear that I am against

any form of homophobia and transphobia. And I am very upset that she could have maybe liked

these posts. I feel like I didn't get enough from the show to know whether or not this happened. And there's no current evidence other than screenshots that, you know, could have been doctored. And a few of you have reached out to me saying that you've seen her like kind of some of this alt-right types of posts over the years, especially since 2020. And the truth is,

Emily Simpsons likes some of those posts as well. She's followed Q&N conspiracy theorists,

but I don't, I've never seen her like anything that's homophobic or transphobic. And I kind of was

thinking the same about Gretchen. You know, I just, I haven't seen it. It doesn't mean it hasn't

happened. It just means that, you know, for me, watching is where I'm trying to get the answers. I

haven't seen it myself. And while it's definitely true, it could have happened. I've been thinking

a lot lately about group think and about how just as society and as human beings, we often misremember things or we think we had a different point of view when something happened.

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