I have a question about I mean just to get into some of the man's and stuff right now I have a question about you

knocking on those doors of the former manson people because as far as I know almost all of them are like either in

prison still or like we don't want to talk about it.

Yeah most of them were we don't want to see you go away.

Would they like answer the door and be like, uh, why had two run-ins were that became really threatening.

Country Sue Bartel who lived on the Russian River.

Oh, that's a great place to be threatened though.

It was scary.

She was like a dirt road. and like it looked like something from

like old south with that moss and and she was out working in her lawn and I said

Miss Bartel and I'd already you know usually I would often email them if I could find or even write a letter and if they didn't respond I'd show up and you know that was a trip that was on that eight month trip and she said

get off my property and I said please and you know I had a routine that I would try to

begin by saying if you talk to me, I can do this, that.

And she started, she had a sight, I think, where you,

and she starts swinging it and walking towards me.

A Manson girl with a sight.

And I'm on the street, yeah. And I'm like, I'm on the street now,'m like I'm on the street now you know you can't do anything and she's like yeah

Yeah, but you're on the street and the Russian river down I probably a dirt road neighbors. Yeah

The exact same thing happened on that trip in Bend, Oregon.

Oh, another place that I have bad associations with.

Nancy Pittman, who call, Vince Buliosi, got some stuff right, he called to her Manson's right right hand of the women and she was scary and she went to prison

for being an accessory to a murder after the family members went to prison and were tried and convicted.

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