This is interrupted by Matt Jones on News Radio 840 WHAS.

Now here's Matt Jones.

Welcome everybody to episode 37 of Interrupted by Matt Jones, where we love to bring on people to talk about interesting things.

And today we have with us,

I'm speaking with from the ringer, Jordan Ritter Khan. I did an event last night in Louisville

with Jordan talking about his book. And then I realized, you know what, Jordan is, not only does

he have a good book, he's also

interesting beyond that. So he's a perfect guest for this podcast. He's coming to us live from

it looks like a hotel in Chattanooga, Tennessee. Jordan, how are you? I'm good, Matt. You know,

had to drive through the rain today from Louisville to Chattanooga.

But did you go over Jellicoe Mountain? Is that right?

I must have. I went over some sort of mountain. A lot of back roads, a lot of switchbacks, not a lot of highway. It was great.

Well, we'll talk about you could have gone through Middlesboro, but you've been there before, so you wouldn't have needed to, you didn't need to experience it.

But we're having you on.

You wrote, it came out a couple weeks ago, American men, I'm holding it up to the camera here.

And for somebody with no knowledge of the book, what's your like 30 second description of what it is? Yeah, it is a book about four

different men, all of whom have some kind of tension in their lives around their relationship

to masculinity. And it's these like really intimate interwoven stories about the kind of stuff

that men are often told like we won't talk about. These guys kind of let me into their lives and let the kind of stuff that men are often told, like, we won't talk about.

You know, these guys kind of let me into their lives and let me kind of chronicle who they are

in a way that's, you know, hopefully feels like a page turner and feels like something that

kind of lets you into the corners of people's lives that you otherwise wouldn't get to see.

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