Episode 369 - Healing Shame after Betrayal with Mark and Jill Savage

The Nothing Is Wasted Podcast

Davey Blackburn and Aubrey Sampson

Religion & Spirituality:christianity, Religion & Spirituality, Christianity

4.9 • 1K Ratings

🗓️ 19 March 2025

⏱️ 79 minutes

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Summary

How do we heal a marriage that has been broken by betrayal? Is it even possible to move past the shame and condemnation that can come after choices that harm our closest relationship?
There was a time when author and podcaster Jill Savage could not see a road to redemption after her husband, Mark, then a pastor, had an affair and was ready to end their marriage. Through what can only be described as the work of God in Mark's heart, their marriage was healed and they stayed together after betrayal. But, the road to that place was not easy. It was full of heartache and shame that threatened to end their relationship. Mark says it was only when he was able to fully surrender to the Lord that true healing came. Now, the couple coaches others who are walking through a similar pain story and have written several books and resources to help couples whose marriages are at a breaking point.
In this episode, Davey talks with Mark and Jill about how to love a spouse when it feels impossible, the incredible power of surrender, and the difference between condemnation vs. conviction.
Whether your marriage is on the brink of divorce or you are working through shame over a past sin, this conversation will help you find a way through the emotions that can keep us stuck, hurting our most precious relationships, and into hope and healing.

Website: www.MarkandJill.org
Instagram: instagram.com/jillsavage.author
Facebook: facebook.com/jillsavage.author
Rebuilding Trust Guide: www.RebuildingTrust.us
Book: Really Messed Up: Your Next Steps to Heal Your Marriage After an Affair
My Heart is Broken: Your Next Steps For When Your Spouse is Unfaithful

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0:00.0	Hey friends, we know a lot of you are walking through some of the most painful, difficult times of your life.
0:06.7	Times that feel like complete darkness after an unexpected loss or grief you didn't expect.
0:12.9	When we find ourselves in the dark after loss, big questions often follow.
0:17.8	Where is God now? Why can't I see him here? Why can't we sense his presence here? How can I
0:24.1	trust that God is good? Why did this happen? The deep theological wrestlings that can come after the
0:30.5	pain of grief are jarring. We need a place to say aloud those hard questions that we're asking in our hearts. We need sometimes
0:40.1	permission to even ask the hard questions in the first place, and we need someone to help us find
0:45.2	answers in the dark. That's why we are so excited to share a brand new podcast with you.
0:52.6	I have written a new book, What We Find in the Dark, Loss, Hope, and God's
0:57.3	presence in grief. And to build on that message, I'm launching a new podcast, What We Find in the
1:02.5	Dark. Join me and my guests, pastors, Bible teachers, and Christian thought leaders on the
1:08.0	What We Find in the Dark podcast. As we walk through the questions that grief can bring, and they'll the dark podcast as we walk through the questions
1:12.0	that grief can bring and they'll help us learn how to walk through the darkness while holding on
1:16.9	to hope. You can listen to the what we find in the dark podcast right here on the same platform
1:22.1	where you're listening to the Nothing Is Wasted podcast. And look, we know darkness can be full of heartache, but there are
1:29.6	treasures to be found there too. Please let me and my guests walk with you as you find a way through
1:35.9	grief, pain, and the hope that waits on the other side. Welcome to the Nothing is Wasted
1:43.6	podcast, where we believe that no matter what you've
1:46.6	gone through in life, God is inviting you to partner with him to take back your story.
1:52.0	On this podcast, we have inspiring conversations with people who are doing just that.
1:57.2	And now, your hosts, Davy Blackburn and Aubrey Sampson.
2:04.3	Hello and welcome to the Nothing is Wasteful podcast.
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