Bonus Episode: What We Find in the Dark Episode 1 with Glenn Packiam

The Nothing Is Wasted Podcast

Davey Blackburn and Aubrey Sampson

Religion & Spirituality:christianity, Religion & Spirituality, Christianity

4.9 • 1K Ratings

🗓️ 17 March 2025

⏱️ 41 minutes

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Summary

Bonus Episode: Check out this episode from our newest podcast, What We Find in the Dark with host Aubrey Sampson
When we find ourselves in the dark after loss, big questions often follow: Where is God now? Why can’t I see Him here? Why can’t we sense His presence? How can I trust that God is good? Why did this happen?
The deep theological wrestlings that often arise after the pain of grief can be jarring. But we need permission to ask the raw questions. We need a space to say them aloud. And we need a guide to help us find answers in the dark.
In this first episode of the What We Find in the Dark Podcast, join host Aubrey Sampson and her guest, pastor and author Glenn Packiam, as they uncover what exactly entails a dark night of the soul, the questions that can emerge after a season of loss and grief, and why wrestling with God in our biggest questions is so important.
If you find yourself struggling with a darkness and seeming silence from God, this conversation will help you see what may feel obscure in the darkest seasons of loss and grief.

To learn more about how to navigate your own season in the dark, pick up host Aubrey Sampson's book *What We Find in the Dark: Loss, Hope, and God’s Presence in Grief*https://a.co/d/iM1Oydl
Watch or listen to all of theWhat We Find in the Dark Podcast episodes at nothingiswasted.com/whatwefind
Connect with this episode's special guest, Glenn Packiam:
Website: glennpackiam.com
Instagram: instagram.com/gpackiam
Facebook: facebook.com/gpackiam
Book:
What's a Christian, Anyway?: Finding Our Way in an Age of Confusion and Corruption
https://www.amazon.com/dp/1400248302?_encoding=UTF8&psc=1&ref_=cm_sw_r_ffobk_cp_ud_dp_A5DFG79WBBDWJQC3J096_1&bestFormat=true&newOGT=1

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0:00.0	Hey, Nothing Is Wasted listeners. This is Aubrey Sampson, your co-host on the Nothing
0:04.8	is Wasted podcast, and I am so excited to share with you this very special bonus episode.
0:11.7	It's actually the first episode of my new podcast, What We Find in the Dark.
0:17.6	If you are walking through loss or grief or have found yourself in a season of
0:21.9	darkness, doubt, and disillusionment, this podcast is for you. The What We Find in the Dark
0:28.6	podcast is the place where we will wrestle together with the often difficult and deep
0:34.5	theological questions around loss, hope, and God's presence and grief.
0:40.1	On the What We Find in the Dark podcast, we have meaningful, real, and hope-filled conversations
0:45.8	about what we find in the dark. In this first episode, I am talking with my friend,
0:51.4	Pastor Glenn Pachium, on what a Dark Night of the soul is and what we can do in the midst of it.
0:56.8	But each week, there are new conversations with my guests, theologians, pastors, and Christian thought leaders like Faith Yuri Cho, Christine Kane, Steve Carter, and more.
1:08.2	I hope this conversation ministers to you and helps you find light in the dark.
1:13.1	And I'd love for you to check out the other conversations on the what we find in the dark podcast.
1:18.0	On the same platform, you are listening to this Nothing Is Wasted episode.
1:22.0	Or you can go to nothing is wasted.com slash what we find to listen or watch. Thanks for listening and enjoy this conversation
1:30.5	with my friend Glenn Packiam. All right, well, Glenn Packiam, thanks so much for being here
1:42.4	with me today on what we find in the dark. I'm so glad to
1:44.8	have you. Aubrey, always good to talk to you. Looking forward to this. All right. So this is a big
1:52.1	topic and this is the first episode of the podcast. So we're going to dive right in. I'm going to
1:58.8	put you on the spot. Pastor, thinker, friend, theologian.
2:04.5	How would you define the dark night of the soul?
2:08.0	You know, it's interesting.
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