Hey, what's up everybody? Welcome to The Fizzle Show. I'm your host, Corbett Barr, and this is our podcast about earning a living independently doing something you love.

Today we have one of my favorite people on the show today. I've known Chris Ducker since way back when both of us were getting started as bloggers.

At the time, Chris was chronicling his

effort to combat burnout as a, quote, brick and mortar CEO by becoming a virtual CEO.

He's run call centers and virtual staffing agencies involving hundreds of employees.

And over the years since, Chris has become known as the go-to expert on personal branding

through his website at chrisducker.com, as well as through his Eupreneur podcast,

community, and conference. Chris, I'm so happy to be able to catch up with you on the podcast

today. How are you? I'm good. It's, it's been a heartbeat and a half since we've done this. So I'm really, uh, very

humbled that you'd have me on and I'm looking forward to it. Oh, I'm, I'm so excited that you're here.

Um, I don't know. Have, have we had you on the pencil show before? I'm not sure. I know we did the,

obviously we did the, we did the sit down in-person interview

a few years back, but I don't think I've been on the podcast before. I think this is my

debut maybe. Awesome. Yeah, we've been doing a lot more interviews this year. And Chris is referring

to a founder story interview that's a live in-person video interview that's

inside of Fizzle, which is probably coming up on five years or so old at this point.

So a lot has happened with you since then.

You made a big move recently.

A lot of people know you probably from your days of virtual CEO and tropical think tank,

which was all based in the Philippines where your other businesses are. But this past year,

you made a big move back home. I did. We moved back just over a year ago to the UK.

We're based out of Cambridge. So old England, as they say. And yeah, on occasion,

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