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On this episode of Newt's World I'm really excited because I recently read John Moody's book

Of course they knew and I was really amazed by the fact that John used fictional characters

with dramatic license to really help us understand the pandemic and the threat we face with

China. As all of you know I co-authored a book with Claire Christensen on Trump vs China. I've

spent a lot of time over the last 60 years on China and I thought that John in this book was

able to weave together several threads including an Italian thread which because of Cluster's

role as the ambassador to the Vatican we had spent three and a half years in Italy. The last

year of it during the COVID attack which was very severe in northern Italy and I thought John

absolutely captured what had happened in Italy in a way that was amazing and the tension inside

the European Union as average everyday people realized that the Brussels bureaucracy is the

least globalist and does not have any interest in their lives or their reality. So when I finished

I really wanted to talk with John because he's a former editor and executive vice president

Fox News I've known him for many years he's a very tough-minded researcher and I think you're

going to find this to be a fascinating conversation. So John thank you for joining me today.

It's a great pleasure to be here. You grew up in Pittsburgh as you know I was born in

Harrisburg. You were an executive vice president for Fox News from its founding in 96 to May 2009

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