Hello everyone welcome back to the cine files we are reposting our conversation on

aliens the 1980s film here we brought in our special guest Michael Vogel to be a

part of this you know, one third of the

Geek buddies. For the three of us, I am the Alo John Rokit, you are. I am Steve Morris and

I am very excited to talk about one of my favorite action movies of the 80s.

Absolutely, this one directed by James Cameron.

And you know we were talking for those you don't know we also reposted our

our discussion on 1979's alien the other day and went into a discussion about comparing the two and near the

tail end of our discussion Steve said he had an epiphany about aliens and I'm

really curious to hear what his epiphany is and if you want to set it up Steve

please feel free and then get to the epiphany. So with the way I'll set it up you know

how we've talked for years about the problem with diehard sequels and the problem with diehardhard sequels. And the problem with die-hard sequels

is that once you have an ordinary cop,

put in an extraordinary situation,

and we discover that he is extraordinary in all of these ways

and the mokes kick-ass person in the world that you never want to mess with and that makes it hard to do the sequels because we already know that about him so you can't recreate our ignorance about how awesome this person is.

What my epiphany was is that it's like alien and aliens does the same thing,

but they do it in two movies, not one.

Because alien, because it's a horror movie structure is always about being outmatched you know

and it's always about we're really scared and we're just fucking trying to survive

this and she does survive and she demonstrates incredible

strength of character but an incredible resourcefulness and courage and all the

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