Episode 34: Divorcing a Narcissist with Dr. Natalie Jones
The Divorce Survival Guide Podcast
Kate Anthony
4.4 • 575 Ratings
🗓️ 27 May 2019
⏱️ 53 minutes
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Summary
Today I have a great interview with Dr. Natalie Jones, who is a licensed professional clinical counselor specializing in helping women overcome abusive relationships with narcissists. I really hate that this is so prevalent in my work, but it is. I also dislike that narcissism and narcissistic abuse take up so much time in my practice. However, they do and I am a true believer that understanding narcissism and how to navigate divorce and later, co-parenting with a narcissist is so very important. And so I have turned to an expert in this for a conversation about all things narcissism.
Dr. Jones and I cover many topics related to narcissism including the hallmark characteristics of a narcissist, setting healthy boundaries safely and effectively, and even the ever-puzzling question, "Why do we date or marry the same type of person over and over again?"
I'm excited to share our conversation with you.
Show Highlights
- The spectrum of narcissism and hallmark characteristics of a narcissist (3:29)
- What it's like to be in a relationship with a narcissist, being "love bombed," and not stepping outside of the "bubble" (5:04)
- How to set healthy boundaries safely and effectively with a narcissist (18:40)
- Things to consider when it comes to safety and leaving (21:03)
- How Dr. Jones suggests you approach leaving a partner when kids are involved (25:09)
- How to go from being manipulated and controlled, to a person that has solid boundaries (27:25)
- Addressing grief of the broken fantasy (31:34)
- Why we date or marry the same type of person over and over again and how we can rewrite our relationship story (35:13)
- Tools to help build up self-esteem, looking at inner dialogue, inner critic and inner child (42:01)
Learn More About Natalie:
Dr. Natalie Jones, PsyD., LPCC is an Licensed professional clinical counselor and a post doctoral intern. She currently has a private practice called Lifetime Counseling and Consulting in CA where she specializes in working with women who have been in emotionally and psychologically abusive relationships with narcissists, as well as with individuals who were previously incarcerated for various crimes. Dr. Jones has a podcast called A Date With Darkness Podcast, which specializes in providing education and tips from healing from narcissistic relationships. Dr. Jones received her masters in clinical counseling psychology from the Chicago School of Professional Psychology in Chicago, IL, and her doctorate in clinical psychology from the California School of Professional Psychology in San Francisco, CA. Dr. Jones has also written blogs for the Mind Journal and PsychCentral.
Links:
Dr. Jones website: https://www.drnataliejones.com
Dr. Jones' social media links
Dr. Jones on Instagram
A Date with Darkness Podcast Instagram
Dr. Jones on Facebook
A Date with Darkness Facebook Page
A Date with Darkness Facebook Group
Dr. Jones on Twitter
A Date with Darkness on Twitter
Resources:
NEW! The Ultimate Divorce Survival Guide
Should I Stay or Should I Go Facebook Group
Transcript
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| 0:00.0 | Welcome to another episode of the Divorce Survival Guide podcast, where we have real, honest, smart, |
| 0:11.6 | and sometimes even hilarious conversations about co-parenting, separation, and divorce, and all that goes along with that. |
| 0:18.9 | I'm Kate Anthony, your divorce survival guide, certified |
| 0:22.0 | life and relationship coach, and happily divorced mom, who helps women decide if they should |
| 0:26.8 | stay in or leave their marriages and then guides them through the process one step at a time. |
| 0:35.3 | Hey, everyone, welcome back. Thank you so much for being here. I just had another group of amazing women complete my group program. And I just want to say that I am so fucking proud of my grads and the work that they've done, that I just want to give them a special shout |
| 0:55.1 | out. You all know how much I love you and how proud I am of you and how honored I am that |
| 1:02.3 | you've allowed me to be your guide through this work. So special shout out to all of you |
| 1:08.2 | publicly. I've told you all individually, but now I'm doing it on the podcast. Shout out to you now. Okay. So one more thing. I've created a new product. And it's called the ultimate divorce survival guide. And if you're going through or thinking about going through |
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| 1:37.5 | how to tell your kids you're getting a divorce, a co-parenting agreement, a children's bill |
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| 1:44.8 | and sign, a mutual vision statement for how you want your relationship to transform that you |
| 1:51.0 | get to co-create with your ex, a guide for how to make holidays in divorce, not suck |
| 1:56.3 | solely hell, top mistakes to avoid when getting divorced, and the back in the game plan, which is a |
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| 2:10.0 | packed to the gills. And you guys, it's $27. It is stupid cheap. |
| 2:18.1 | So seriously, grab yours in the show notes and prepare to have the best divorce possible |
| 2:23.3 | by following all the steps in this guide. |
| 2:26.4 | Okay, on to today's episode. |
| 2:28.4 | So today we have a great interview with Dr. Natalie Jones, who is a licensed professional clinical counselor who |
| 2:36.3 | specializes in helping women overcome abusive relationships with narcissists. Now, I hate that this is so |
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