Episode 34: Cats vs. Dogs and the Late Zaha Hadid

The New Yorker Radio Hour

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🗓️ 10 June 2016

⏱️ 55 minutes

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Summary

When it comes to the war on terror, bomb-sniffing dogs are essential companions. When it comes to your sex life, no animal provides blissful privacy like a cat. So which is the superior domesticated animal? In this episode, the canine partisans Adam Gopnik and Malcolm Gladwell duke it out with the feline lovers Ariel Levy and Anthony Lane to settle the debate once and for all. Also, Lauren Collins talks with the British actor Damian Lewis about playing the part of an American on “Homeland” and “Billions,” and the late architect Zaha Hadid speaks with John Seabrook about her early life.

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0:00.0	From One World Trade Center in Manhattan,
0:05.0	this is The New Yorker Radio Hour,
0:07.0	a co-production of The New Yorker and WNYC Studios.
0:11.0	Ladies and gentlemen, all rise.
0:18.0	I'm David Remnick, editor of The New Yorker, and possibly in a career-ending move.
0:24.6	You're a judge for the day.
0:28.6	For the last 10,000 years, give or take, since humankind first started domesticating pets,
0:35.6	people, for one reason or another, have been arguing about which is better,
0:39.9	cats or dogs, a global question. We decided to settle this debate once and for all,
0:45.6	live on stage at the New Yorker Festival with a panel of highly distinguished experts on each side.
0:52.0	That's coming up on the New Yorker radio hour. We'll also hear a conversation
0:55.8	with the late Zaha Hadid, the first woman to win architecture's highest award. And Lauren Collins talks
1:03.0	with Damian Lewis who played an impossibly elegant terrorist on homeland and now plays an
1:08.7	impossibly elegant hedge fund guy on billions. That's all ahead today,
1:14.6	but first, cats and dogs. Now listen, I don't have a dog or a cat in this fight. I have to admit
1:22.3	that domestic animals and me, we just, we don't get along all that well.
1:29.4	So I am the ideal person to have a certain kind of dispassionate judgment in this case.
1:34.8	But you are the jury.
1:37.5	You, the audience, will decide the verdict.
1:41.3	So let's get started.
1:43.0	Opening for the team dogs is defense counsel, Mr. Adam Gopnik.
1:47.0	Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you, Your Honor. Thank you, opposing counsel.
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