Episode 33: Awkward Dog Banter, and the Marxist Who Brought Us “Hamilton”

The New Yorker Radio Hour

WNYC Studios and The New Yorker

Politics, Arts, News, Wnyc, Books, David, Storytelling, Society & Culture, Yorker, New, Remnick

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🗓️ 3 June 2016

⏱️ 55 minutes

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Summary

In 2014, the New Yorker staff writer Jennifer Gonnerman wrote about Kalief Browder, a teen-ager from the Bronx who spent three years jailed at Rikers Island without ever being convicted of a crime. After his release, Browder committed suicide. In excerpts from Gonnerman’s interviews with him, he speaks candidly about the psychological toll of solitary confinement, and what it meant to have the criminal-justice system take away years of his life. Also, the Public Theatre’s artistic director, Oskar Eustis, tells David Remnick why “Hamilton” will have a real impact on America’s debate on immigration, and the New Yorker’s theatre critic, Hilton Als, speaks with the actress Michelle Williams. Lastly, we reveal the real answer to the question “Can my dog say hi?”

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0:00.0	From One World Trade Center in Manhattan, this is the New Yorker Radio Hour, a co-production of the New Yorker and WNYC Studios.
0:13.8	Can my dog say hi?
0:15.5	She already is, so I'm not going to violently fling your dog away, if that's what you're asking.
0:19.6	Oh, what's his name?
0:21.2	Her name is Lucy.
0:22.7	Notice that I said her with no intonation, so it didn't sound like I was correcting you.
0:26.7	Oh, Lucy.
0:28.3	I had a sublater once with a dog named Lucy.
0:30.3	Wow.
0:31.1	Small world were there being more than one dog named a thing.
0:33.3	I was subtly calling you on original.
0:35.2	I picked up on that.
0:37.0	Is she a puppy?
0:38.1	No. Mine loves puppies. That's irrelevant because she's not a puppy. She's four. Oh, four. You said any number. Good thing you didn't say one of those bad numbers. I would have had to be like, your age sucks all up in Lucy's face. Actually, I just remembered that she's five, but neither of us cares. I'm guessing she's Beagle?
0:56.3	Yeah, obviously.
0:57.9	Way to go out on a limb there. I bet you're also that person at concerts who says the name of every song out loud so that everyone knows you knew it. That's so presumptuous, but correct. Whoa, get down, Lucy. No, no, no, it's fine. I've decided it's okay for your dog to jump up on me. Actually, let me take this opportunity to undermine you further by petting your jumping dog. Does that feel good, widow, Woosie, undermining your owner? Stayed juku, tonight, overthrow your master. We should get going. We're going to suck around the park and then run into you again on the opposite side.
1:29.3	Sounds good.
1:30.2	You can pretend to ignore me, but the dogs will pull towards each other,
1:33.1	forcing me to diffuse the tension with a half-ass joke.
1:35.8	Probably something about how the dogs go way back.
1:38.5	I'm already dreading it.
1:41.6	You know, talking to strangers under most circumstances is excruciating,
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