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Episode 335 - Role Playing Games in Behavior Analysis w/ Danielle Yang

ABA Inside Track

Robert Parry-Cruwys

Social Sciences, Science, Education

4.7634 Ratings

🗓️ 18 February 2026

⏱️ 76 minutes

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Summary

A kobold approaches! He's looking for someone to help him with his social skills to gain greater friends at the taverns. Do you roll for behavior analysis clinical skills? Or attack him with your +2 broadsword?

While we've definitely discussed role-playing activities in training contexts, recent years have seen a huge increase in interest in gamification in learning a variety of skills. One area of research is in the use of tabletop role-playing games in therapeutic and clinical settings. But is there any research to back up the hype? This week we're joined by active RPG player clinical user, Danielle Yang, to dive into the research base as we work to answer the question: could the use of RPGs in treatment be considered behavior analytic?

Interested in learning more about this topic? Danielle offers a deeper-dive course into the use of RPGs in treatment and skill planning. You can also join her Discord to chat with other RPG/ABA practitioners. And keep your eye out for a bonus episode this month where we'll be demoing just HOW a tabletop RPG could be used in a clinical setting.

This episode is available for 1.0 LEARNING CEU.

Articles discussed this episode:

Arenas, D.L., Viduani, A., & Araujo, R.B. (2022). Therapeutic use of role-playing game (RPG) in mental health: A scoping review. Simulation and Gaming, 53, 285-311. doi: 10.1177/10468781211073720

Yuliawati, L., Wardhani, P.A.P., & Ng, J.H. (2024). A scoping review of tabletop role-playing game (TTPRG) as a psychological intervention: Potential benefits and future directions. Psychology Research and Behavior Management, 17, 2885-2903. doi: 10.2147/PRBM.S466664

Helbig, K.A., (2019). Evaluation of a role-playing game to improve social skills for individuals with ASD. [Doctoral dissertation, University of Southern Mississippi]. Aquila Digital Community.  https://aquila.usm.edu/dissertations/1673

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Transcript

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0:00.0

Hey, everybody.

0:14.2

Welcome to ABA Inside Track, the podcast that's like reading in your car, but safer.

0:19.2

I'm your host, Robert Perry Cruz, and with me as always are my fabulous co-hosts.

0:24.3

Hi, Rob, it's me, Jackie McDonald.

0:28.2

What a hi.

0:29.9

And hello, it's me, Diana Perry Cruz, joining you from the game room here in our house,

0:35.8

which usually we call the recording studio, but just so everybody knows, it does double as our game room. It's got, let's name some games. It's got Everdale. It's got the Jawsboard game. It's got wingspan. It's got Catan. Yep. It's got a lot of games in here. It has got parks.

0:54.8

Two rock band guitars, but they're in a guitar stand, so they look real fancy.

0:59.5

And then behind us, we have shelves of role-playing game products.

1:03.7

Yep.

1:04.3

And I'm going to write them off on my taxes because this is our podcast about behavior

1:09.6

analysis and behavior analytic research

1:12.0

where every week we pick a topic.

1:13.6

And you know what?

1:14.4

It's tax time.

1:15.3

I got to write these things off.

1:16.5

They're real expensive.

1:17.7

So I don't know.

1:18.4

You guys want to talk about tabletop role playing games and behavior analysis or something.

1:22.2

Oh, all of a sudden, this is an ethics episode.

1:27.1

JK, JK, I didn't really write these off by taxes because I bought them too long ago.

1:32.4

But yes, it is February when this is coming out.

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