Book Club 22 - (UNLOCKED) The Science of Consequences Book Club
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Robert Parry-Cruwys
4.7 • 634 Ratings
🗓️ 11 February 2026
⏱️ 155 minutes
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As a follow-up from our episode on storytelling, we our Winter 2024 Book Club explored Dr. Susan Schneider's 2012 opus, The Science of Consequences, as an example of taking the hugely important concept of learning through consequences and making it understandable to the wider public. But hey, while she was at it, why not explain how consequences impact evolution, or gene expression, or social improvement strategies. And add multiple examples of how consequences work in labs and the natural environment across a wide range of human and non-human species. And make it fun to read!
But before our crack Book Club squad dives into the nitty gritty of the content, we had the opportunity to sit down with Dr. Schneider herself to ask how she managed to take millions of years of the effects of consequences and pack it into a 300+ page book as well as how her study of consequences informs her current work as a climate change policy advocate.
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| 0:00.0 | Hey everybody. Welcome to ABA Inside Track, the podcast that's like reading in your car, but safer. |
| 0:20.3 | I'm your host, Robert perry cruz and before we |
| 0:22.4 | get to the meat of the show i just want to let all of our listeners know that this is our quarterly |
| 0:27.8 | book club podcast if you are a patron thank you so much we are doing this in the winter of |
| 0:35.4 | 2025 actually to just I just caught it |
| 0:39.6 | because it should just be 2025. And if you're listening to this in like |
| 0:43.0 | 26, well, thank you so much for listening to the show and |
| 0:45.9 | subscribing. But, you know, that's all right. You could have |
| 0:49.3 | listened to this a year ago. Patreon.com slash ABA and |
| 0:52.1 | sidetrack and you get two CEs for listening. Anyway, we're going to do |
| 0:55.8 | this book club a little bit differently because before we were able to start recording, |
| 1:00.4 | we had the chance, or at least I had the chance, to speak to the author of our book. So we're going to be |
| 1:05.7 | talking at length about Susan Schneider's The Science of Consequences. Usually we start with our thoughts and then we get |
| 1:13.3 | into the book, but we're actually going to start with an interview with Dr. Schneider talking |
| 1:18.8 | about the book and her current work. So we're going to do that. And then we'll come back in and have |
| 1:23.8 | our discussion with our book club group who I'll introduce then. So sit back, |
| 1:29.1 | relax, and enjoy our deluxeified book club on The Science of Consequences. All right. So I am here |
| 1:39.0 | very, very excited to be talking with Dr. Susan Schneider about her book, The Science of Consequences, which we |
| 1:46.6 | did our whole book club episode about. We had a nice long discussion about it, but it's nice that |
| 1:51.6 | we thought whatever we thought, but why don't we check in with Susan about the book as the person |
| 1:56.5 | who created it, or at the very least summed up up her research, other people's research into a nice |
| 2:01.5 | coherent whole. And speaking of that, Susan, would you mind just kind of introducing yourself |
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