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Raising Boys & Girls

Episode 334: Moving from Knowledge to Relationship with Kids / Enneagrams Wrap Up with Jill Phillips and Hunter Mobley

Raising Boys & Girls

That Sounds Fun Network

Religion & Spirituality, Kids & Family, Christianity, Parenting

4.91.9K Ratings

🗓️ 16 December 2025

⏱️ 66 minutes

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Summary

In this rich and hope-filled conversation, Sissy and David are joined by beloved friends and Enneagram teachers Jill Phillips and Hunter Mobley to explore how the Enneagram can help parents show up with more grace, humility, and curiosity. Together, they unpack how understanding motivations—not just behaviors—can transform parenting, reduce reactivity, and deepen connection. Hunter shares insights from his book Letting Go, Finding You, inviting parents to see their Enneagram type not as a box but as a pathway toward virtue, healing, and surrender, while Jill offers practical wisdom on stances, compassion, and loving kids in ways that fit who they uniquely are. With reflections on contemplative practices, slowing down, and trusting that our kids’ stories are still unfolding, this episode offers parents reassurance, perspective, and hope for the long game of growth—for themselves and for their children. Resources mentioned: Letting Go, Finding You: Uncover Your Truest Self Through the Enneagram and Contemplation by Hunter Mobley The Practice of the Presence of God by Brother Lawerence The Quotidian Mysteries by Kathleen Norris Under Pressure by Lisa Damour . . . . . .  Sign up to receive the⁠ bi-⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠monthly newsletter⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ to keep up to date with where David and Sissy are speaking, where they are taco'ing, PLUS conversation starters for you and your family to share! Access Raising Boys and Girls courses here! Connect with David, Sissy, and Melissa at ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠raisingboysandgirls.com⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ ⁠Owen Learns He Has What it Takes: A Lesson in Resilience⁠ ⁠Lucy Learns to Be Brave: A Lesson in Courage⁠⁠ . . . . . .  If you would like to partner with Raising Boys and Girls as a podcast sponsor, fill out our⁠ ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Advertise With Us⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ form. A special thank you to our sponsors: QUINCE: Go to ⁠Quince.com/rbg⁠ for free shipping on your order and three hundred and sixty-five -day returns. THRIVE MARKET: Head over to ⁠ThriveMarket.com/rbg⁠ to get 30% off your first order and a FREE $60 gift.  NIV APPLICATION BIBLE: Save an additional 10% on any NIV Application Bible and NIV Application Commentary Resources by visiting faithgateway.com/nivab and using promo code RBG. MERCY SHIPS: Please donate today at MercyShips.org/podcast. OMAHA STEAKS: Visit OmahaSteaks.com for 50% off sitewide during their Sizzle All the Way Sale. And for an extra $35 off, use promo code FUN at checkout. OUR PLACE: Stop cooking with toxic cookware, and upgrade to Our Place today. Visit https://tinyurl.com/RBGOurPlace and use code RBG for 10% off sitewide. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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Hey friends. Hey, friends, welcome to the Raising Boys and Girls podcast.

0:27.4

I'm Sissy Goff.

0:28.5

And I'm David Thomas, and we're so glad you've joined us for this conversation.

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Let's dive in.

0:39.7

Folks, we have not one, but two dear friends and folks we love and trust their voice who are with us today.

0:49.0

Jill Phillips Gullhorn is one of our favorite therapists in Nashville, wise, grounded, and deeply gifted at

0:56.5

helping people grow with honesty and compassion. Besides being a therapist, she's an

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anagram expert and teacher, and besides that, she has spent more than two decades as a celebrated

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singer-songwriter known for her soulful

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storytelling, and she brings that same depth and insight into this conversation today.

1:17.8

Jill is also a wife, a mom, and a dear friend of the two of us, and we are so grateful to have her

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with us for this conversation.

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Our friend Hunter Mobley is a lawyer, writer, and Enneagram teacher who has spent years

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helping individuals, families, and communities understand themselves with greater compassion.

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Formerly, the executive pastor of Christchurch in Nashville, and now a leading voice in Enneagram

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wisdom, Hunter guides people toward emotional and spiritual

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growth through practical grace-filled insights. His newest book, Letting Go, Finding You, Invites us

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