Gleeman and the geek

Gleeman and the geek

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Kernel Nation.com. I'm John Bonas. I'm Twinsdaily and next to me. Aaron Gleeman of Baseball Perspectus.com. Cross from you. Let's not paint the picture that we're on like a date. On my lap. On my lap. Eric Kleeman. Especially after last week when you said I was shirtless. Let's also say I'm not wearing a kimono Nor am I eating

Um Especially after last week when you said I was shirtless. Let's also say I'm not wearing a kimono, nor am I eating Cinnabund, although there is a bucket of sweet Martha's cookies here left over. Are there really? Yeah, I'm not against that. Where is that? Right here in front of me. Giddy up? Yeah, to keep your hands off. Right then. How will I fill out this kimono without eating these sweet and one of these cookies?

We're in a situation that we're often in on Sundays,

which is the entire fate of, especially John, but I fall into this too sometimes.

The entire fate of optimism or pessimism revolves around three more outs being made either by the Royals or the twins. But I think, you know, first of all, last week, most of the show was about, A, how hot the twins were. Right. That remains true for the most part. Now, they might lose two out of three of the Royals, whatever. And B. How Hot Byron Buxton has been. Right. Now, we got a little bit of a scare. Yes, we did. And by me, I mean, me and my soul, as we were cowering in the fetal position, when, you know, he heard his hand on a very odd sort of swing where he let go and immediately, especially once he talk of a hamate bone. Right. That's almost always a broken bone. It's the little hook that connects your hand to your wrist, I guess. And as someone who used to, for a living, write about baseball injuries and timetables and stuff for Rotorworld and NBC. You hear about a wrist injury or you hear your hamate bone. You hear hamate bone. You knew it's six to eight weeks. Yes. And then even then, you're not really the same.

Right.

And the problem, it's a little bit like a shoulder injury more so than even an elbow injury for a pitcher, which is that, yes, you could come back potentially in two months, although A, that'd be it for bucks in this season, no matter what kind of playoff run they make. But B, even when you do come back, there's the question of sort of your ability to have full movement in your hand and your wrist. And I even talked to when I thought he was going to be, you know, retiring after his injury in those three hours where I was getting so worked up. I actually talked to non-baseball players who had had the hammet bone injury that it was feared that he had. and were saying well yeah in three months I was you know quote unquote fine but I'd never had full mobility

after that and once in a while it would be kind of creaky and I was like great that's great

guys finally putting it together after two years of being a terrible hitter turns out we should

talk about that that that has been sort of theins have had more than their share of those sort of injuries of, you know, up and coming first or second year stars. Whether it's... You're starting with, you know, Mowers meniscus tear, right? Murno's concussion. Kubal blew out his knee in the Arizona Fall League that's right I forgot about Kubel

uh yeah you know I think there is

even how about Suno by the way missed an entire year because he blew out his elbow

playing third basin at double a had Tommy John surgery

had an entire year missed uh and there's some other examples too I think

you know then you have like Kyle Gibson missed the year sure you know with pitchers it's a little bit more common obviously but the yes I would like I think I wrote about this a few years ago I know I possibly after Moreno I think of them all yeah my thing was just like I want to see a guy start from zero and go all the way through his career without having a major injury I just want to to see the full capability. Or just through his arbitration year. Wait, get him out of Minnesota at least. Yeah, right. Yeah, because, I mean, you look at Mauer is going to have, you know, MVP winning many time All-Star, great career, borderline Hall of Fame career. But who knows what it might not have been. Right. Or it might have been, you know, not only did, like you said, I mean, a week into his major league three, tears his knee and is out. And, you know, then he's got the concussion. He had the knee problems coming back from that. I mean, he's had a lot of injuries. And the Moreno thing is the most obvious example, although I would argue that Maurer kind of had a similar example.

Maurer was hit in 325, concussion, never the same.

Mornow was like a plan at an MVP level.

Yeah, Maurer's playing well.

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