Episode 330 - Culturally Responsive Leadership Practices w. Denisha Gingles
ABA Inside Track
Robert Parry-Cruwys
4.7 • 634 Ratings
🗓️ 17 December 2025
⏱️ 75 minutes
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Summary
Special guest, Denisha Gingles, returns to the show to update our perceptions of good leadership with a decidedly non-Western traditional mindset of culturally responsive practices. For example, did you know that some cultures appreciate a greater sense of unity from their leaders? Apparently one giant know-it-all doesn't necessarily make for the best boss—looking at you, American CEOs! Learn how embracing a more diverse workforce can also benefit goals of meaningful mentorship and growth in our field with some examples from the medical world and how much we really should learn from rugby.
This episode is available for 1.0 CULTURAL (ETHICS) CEU.
Articles discussed this episode:
Sriram, V., Atwal, A., & McKay, E.A. (2024). Exploring aspects of mentoring for black and minoritised healthcare professionals in the UK: A nominal group technique study. BMJ Open, 14. doi: 10.1136/bmjopen-2024-089121
Laloo, E. (2022). Ubuntu leadership - an explication of an Afrocentric leadership style. The Journal of Values-Based Leadership, 15, 1-9. doi: 10.22543/1948-0733.1383
Mathur, S.K. & Rodriguez, K.A. (2022). Cultural responsiveness curriculum for behavior analysts: A meaningful step toward social justice. Behavior Analysis in Practice, 15, 1023-1031. doi: 10.1007/s40617-021-00579-3
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| 0:00.0 | Hey, everybody. Welcome to ABA Inside Track, the podcast that's like reading in your car, but safer. |
| 0:19.2 | I'm your host, Robertry cruz and with me as |
| 0:21.1 | always are my fabulous co-hosts hello rob it's me diana perry cruz coming live next to you in the chair |
| 0:27.9 | next to you i'm moving the mic for you there you go that was so sweet wasn't that romantic so romantic |
| 0:34.1 | here's the mic i'm jacky mcdonald and I'm today not in the room with them sitting next to them. |
| 0:41.4 | I am at my own house sitting alone. |
| 0:46.0 | That's it? |
| 0:47.1 | Because I don't live with you, even though some people think I do. |
| 0:50.0 | It's like when teachers live at school, I don't live at school and I don't live at Diana and Rob's house. I know listeners that they see us in the wild, they get all freaked out. They're like, wait, oh, you're all, like, were you going back to your house, your podcast house? I love that. But I'm alone. If we did have a podcast house, who would be the leader of the house, do you think? Would it be me Because I'm the host and your only co-hosts. It would be you. That's how I announced it, |
| 1:14.0 | not for any reason. It would be me. I am the loudest ones. So no matter what room we were in of the house, I'd be able to say, everybody, let's go this way, which is what you say to people when you lead them around. |
| 1:24.8 | I think, I don't know. |
| 1:26.2 | I don't know if I'm a good leader, you guys. |
| 1:27.5 | I just mostly tell people to stand over there. |
| 1:29.3 | Oh, I didn't nearly. |
| 1:30.1 | I did not understand your segue. to people when you lead them around. I think, I don't know. I don't know if I'm a good leader, you guys. |
| 1:31.7 | I just mostly tell people to stand over there and stand over here. I did not understand your segue. |
| 1:39.1 | You didn't understand the segue? I got the segue and I loved it. I love that Diana did not get it. And that makes my heart so full. Diana, you are in for a treat this episode we're about to do that you are nominally |
| 1:46.9 | prepared to talk about. |
| 1:49.0 | Thank goodness. |
| 1:50.0 | It's not just us. |
| 1:50.9 | Say what? |
| 1:53.0 | But we are very excited. |
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