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🗓️ 22 January 2023
⏱️ 47 minutes
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There was a third person in Ivan and Amy's apartment the night of November 3rd 2000. She left just minutes before when Amy says Ivan committed the murders. In this episode, you'll hear her account of the time leading up to the murders and her experience at Ivan's trial.
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0:00.0 | I remember there being something about they got a fight. |
0:05.0 | I remember she was showing me like a bullet hole or something like that by the door, by the front door. |
0:12.6 | But she was being very whispery. |
0:14.4 | Yes, she was mad at it. |
0:15.4 | And I've been it was like manic. |
0:24.0 | When I think it was a court trial, I have one shot of the one opportunity to be not guilty. |
0:29.0 | Or I go to prison in death row. |
0:31.0 | Mm-hmm. |
0:32.0 | Except the reality of it. |
0:34.0 | We have busted out of eyes. |
0:36.0 | We have caught people in line. |
0:39.0 | This is just insane because everybody's pointing the finger at somebody else. |
0:44.0 | You just don't hear every day walking in somebody's house or going to take the plastic out and pop somebody. |
0:50.0 | So he could get the execution date pretty much any day? |
0:53.0 | Yeah. |
0:54.0 | There's no impediment. |
0:58.0 | This is Cousins by Blood. |
1:02.0 | Episode 33, Dirty Pool. |
1:14.0 | If you'll remember from the very first episode, this story began unfolding with four people. |
1:22.0 | James and Amy Kitchen, and Ivan and Amy Betcher. |
1:29.0 | Two couples. |
1:32.0 | But as happenstance had it, there was actually a third couple that found themselves and twined in this story. |
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