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Cousins By Blood

Episode 32: Loose Ends

Cousins By Blood

Matt Duff

True Crime

4.71.2K Ratings

🗓️ 23 January 2023

⏱️ 52 minutes

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Summary

In this episode, new information comes to light about Ivan considering fleeing to Mexico after the murders and the mysterious call from inside the apartment while Ivan was in Arkansas.  Also, Gambino is interviewed for a second time.

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0:00.0

That's cold bloody that's not Ivan you'll never convince me I mean it was cold bloody you got to be really cold

0:06.4

Blooded to do that. You know what? I'm sorry. There's something in this wood pile and I don't know what it is

0:19.8

When I think it was according to trial I have one shot more opportunity to be not guilty or I go to prison in death row

0:26.4

Mm-hmm, that's the reality of it. We have busted out of eyes. We have caught people in line

0:35.1

This is just insane because everybody's pointing the finger at somebody else

0:40.1

You just don't hear every day walking in somebody's house. They're gonna take the plastic out and pop somebody

0:45.8

So he could get the execution date pretty much any day. Yeah, there's no impediments

0:53.2

This is Cousins by blood

0:57.5

Episode 32

0:59.5

Lucins

1:04.2

On November 7th

1:06.2

2000

1:07.4

Dallas PD executed the search warrant in the pararriage apartment and

1:12.8

Found evidence in the trash can and the closet as I've in a name he headed back to Dallas from Arkansas

1:20.6

Also on November 7th this message was left on the answering machine inside their apartment

1:29.3

Saved message November 7th 8 50 2 a.m

1:36.3

My husband this girl is at usually 9 a.m. You mean I call it 2 1 0

1:43.3

Let me know how we come you got time if not I call me this afternoon. Bye

1:57.8

Aside from this answering machine message there was a major piece of evidence that connected Francisco to this case

2:05.6

That will get into momentarily

2:09.0

But who was this Francisco

2:12.0

And why was he calling Ivan during the time when all this went down

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