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🗓️ 7 April 2025
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On this episode of the Addicted Mind podcast, our guest is Tom Horvath, founder of Practical Recovery and co-founder of Smart Recovery. Smart Recovery is a non-12-step approach to addictive behavior problems that provides an alternative to programs like Alcoholics Anonymous. While both methods provide new communities and relationships to build on as well as specific examples of individuals who are models of success, AA is based on the idea that you must give yourself up to a higher power because “you are powerless” and must rely on your sponsor and meetings in order to recover.
12-step programs can be helpful to some, but they can be ineffective for others, so the demand for alternative programs is continuing to increase. Smart Recovery integrates any methods that have been supported by scientific evidence, are self-empowering and are applicable in a mutual help group, including CBT, DBT, and ACT. They recognize that there are multiple pathways to recovery and that great results occur in a community.
Smart Recovery takes a self-empowering approach to recovery, relying on the individual to set their own limits and establishing a 4-point program for people to work through:
Smart Recovery emphasizes “ideal” recovery, rather than “real” recovery as is expected in 12-step programs. Ideal recovery may not be complete abstinence, but rather staying within the limits that each person sets (and potentially changes along the way) for themselves, which is the point of the accountability of attending meetings.
Tom encourages those struggling with addictive behaviors or searching for a recovery group to be persistent in finding what works for you. Most people are able to resolve their problems with treatment, so just don’t give up.
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0:00.0 | Hello, everyone. Welcome to the Addicted Mind podcast. This is episode 51. My name is Dwayne Austerlund, and I'm your host. I'm also the founder of Novis Mindful Life Institute, family counseling Recovery Center in Long Beach, California. |
0:22.3 | If you or someone you know is struggling with any of life's difficulties, please reach out to us. |
0:28.8 | I know we can help. |
0:30.1 | You can find more information about us at theaddictedmind.com forward slash help. |
0:35.8 | Today's guest is Tom Horvath. |
0:38.5 | He is one of the leading experts in non-12-step addiction treatment. |
0:43.1 | He is also the founder of Practical Recovery, a non-12-step treatment center in San Diego, |
0:51.3 | as well as the co-founder of Smart Recovery, a non-12-step mutual community support group. |
1:00.0 | So today, Tom is going to talk about smart recovery, how I got founded, and how it works. |
1:05.8 | I really enjoyed this episode. I've had a lot of clients who have really enjoyed smart recovery. I don't know |
1:14.2 | if enjoyed is the right word, but found it very, very useful and very helpful. It resonated with |
1:20.0 | them and they were able to get a lot of support in their recovery. So I hope you guys enjoy this |
1:26.4 | episode. Let's get it started. |
1:35.7 | Hello, everyone. |
1:36.9 | Welcome to the Addicted Mind podcast. |
1:39.8 | My guest today is Tom Horvath. |
1:42.7 | He is the founder of Practical Recovery and also the co-founder of Smart Recovery, a non-12-step |
1:50.4 | approach to addiction support. |
1:53.0 | Tom, do you want to introduce yourself? |
1:55.0 | Yes, Dwayne. |
1:56.0 | Thank you. |
1:57.0 | I'm happy to be here. |
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