And the So yes, okay, you've been you've been going down the holy Roman Empire rabbit hole

huh you've been you've been doing ho and stuff and yeah that deep dives what yeah

I have actually.

What is it about it?

I mean, because honestly, you know a little more about this than me.

I think that it's funny, I think that you and I have sort of started going, approaching the Roman Roman Empire but from two different

from two different entry points like you're kind of at the high point and I've been reading a book about like Thomas

Muncer and like the Hussites and that's like

more towards the you know closer to the end even though it like managed to hold on for like

another 300 years I think it ended with with Napoleon, I'm pretty sure.

But like, it was like, that's the thing, like things can decline a really, really long time.

They can languish. Yeah. They really languish. I feel like yeah for me the

Holy Roman Empire stuff for me actually started when I was working as a cycling

journalist and I was covering the tour of Slovenia and I live in

Slovenia for three months or so every year and we went to Ormosh which is a like tiny

wine growing town and the press room for that for that stage of the Torus

Slovenia was in the museum of the Toy Ornamo's regional museum.

It's like while it was there, I picked up this little book

that they had.

And no one was, the funny thing was no one was working

in the museum, so you just, and it was like,

you could just go in there and like no one was there,

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