Episode 326 - Difficulty During Transitions (Fall 2025 Listener Choice)
ABA Inside Track
Robert Parry-Cruwys
4.7 • 634 Ratings
🗓️ 12 November 2025
⏱️ 61 minutes
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Summary
Could it be? Could Jackie's option for Listener Choice actually have won the poll? I guess everybody really wants to learn more about the challenges involved in moving from one activity to the next. So, in this episode, that's exactly what we'll review. Are there good treatment options when putting down the iPad and joining an arts and crafts activity leads to tears? How can we even pinpoint where and why the transition chain is breaking down? Put down your JABA and head on over to your phone to find out.
This episode is available for 1.0 LEARNING CEU.
Articles discussed this episode:
Waters, M.B., Lerman, D. C., & Hovantez, A. N. (2009). Separate and combined effects of visual schedules and extinction plus differential reinforcement on problem behavior occasioned by transitions. Journal of Applied Behavior Analysis, 42, 309-313. doi: 10.1901/jaba.2009.42-309
Wilson, J.D., Federico, C.A., Perrin, J., & Morris, C. (2025). Treatment of challenging behavior during physical transitions: A case study. Behavior Analysis in Practice. doi: 10.1007/s40617-025-01086-5
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| 0:00.0 | Hey, everybody. Welcome to ABA Inside Track, the podcast that's like reading in your car but safer. I'm your host, Perry Cruz and with me as always are my fabulous co-hosts. |
| 0:23.4 | Hello, Rob, it's me. Diana Perry Cruz. Hi, hi, hi. Hi. |
| 0:26.6 | As me, Jackie McDonald. |
| 0:29.7 | Oh, boy. Wow. We're just coming in with all the energy. |
| 0:33.2 | I got energy. Despair. |
| 0:35.0 | I got no energy. Diana and I both had our flu and COVID shots yesterday and then went to bed being like, |
| 0:42.1 | let's go to bed early. |
| 0:42.9 | And I bet we'll feel fine. |
| 0:44.1 | And then I did until about noon today. |
| 0:46.1 | And I am crashing hard. |
| 0:48.8 | So I also want to acknowledge that we were extremely fortunate and privileged that we live |
| 0:53.1 | in Massachusetts and are able to access |
| 0:54.7 | us. That's true. Yes. I added to our medical procedure today where during the medical procedure |
| 0:59.8 | there was a fire alarm and everyone had to leave. And so I had to take my little IV bag with my |
| 1:06.8 | little IV stand and geriatrically walk out the building and walk down the stairs and hang out in the parking lot. |
| 1:14.6 | I never thought about what would happen. |
| 1:16.8 | Yeah. |
| 1:17.2 | If you had a fire alarm in that scenario. |
| 1:19.2 | That. |
| 1:19.4 | So I'm just hanging out. |
| 1:20.7 | The nurse keeps coming over and being like, oh, you got to keep your arms straight because you're blocking all the minutes. |
| 1:26.3 | Oh, geez. |
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