Episode 325 : Jane Borden
Life After MLM
Roberta Blevins
4.2 • 1.1K Ratings
🗓️ 23 November 2025
⏱️ 52 minutes
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Happy Thanksgiving! How about a bit of seasonal American history you probably didn't learn about in 2nd grade? Author of Cults Like Us, Jane Borden and I delve into the connections between cult dynamics and American culture, particularly through the lens of the Puritans and Pilgrims. Jane explains how these early groups set the stage for modern consumerism, the psychological impacts of cult-like thinking, and the prevalence of such dynamics in contemporary society, including the rise of influencers.
Plus, Mr. F tries to make me a Trekkie.
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| 0:59.4 | Hey, I'm Roberta Blevins, and this is live after MLM, a podcast where we worked and the stigma of failure in an industry systemically designed for you to fail. |
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| 2:18.3 | I got to indoctrinate you into my harmless cult. |
| 2:22.3 | So today, what are you indoctrinating me into? |
| 2:25.3 | So I'm going to give you one of my absolute favorite Star Trek episodes. |
| 2:31.3 | It's from season two premiere of the original series. It's called |
| 2:36.7 | A Mock Time. Best one ever. Best music ever for sure. Although, I mean, the music is a kind of general theme throughout first season two, but this one really accentuates it. |
| 3:09.4 | You learn about a lot of cool stuff. It was very pivotal when I was a child because you'd |
| 3:13.8 | watch these in like heavy rotation, always throughout my house. Star Trek, a mock time. |
| 3:20.4 | Second season, episode one. I mean, how are you feeling about this what do you what are you thinking |
| 3:25.2 | okay so i have seen some original season star trek right uh with lern nemoi uh william |
| 3:33.1 | william shatner bill shatner you just you love bill shatner i do i think is the greatest |
| 3:38.1 | i love the guy and i'm also familiar with some of the newer movies, which I know you aren't all that keen on. |
| 3:45.7 | And then also Next Generation. I used to watch Star Trek Next Generation in the 90s with my uncle Jimmy. |
| 3:51.7 | It's also a great series. I'm still an original series fan. I love it. Yeah, the movies, those are called the Kelvin timeline, and I don't care for those. |
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