Hey, everybody, I'm Justin McGuire, and this is Baseball by the Book, the only podcast that

matters. That's right, folks, you're once again listening to Baseball by the Book, the podcast

in which we talk to authors of baseball books past and present.

Folks, today Ralph Carhart returns to the podcast. He's here to talk about Not an Easy

Tale to Tell, Jackie Robinson on the page, he's here to talk about not an easy tale to tell. Jackie Robinson

on the page, stage, and screen. This is a new Sabre collection for which he was the editor. Let's get

started. Hi, Ralph. Welcome back to Baseball by the book. Hi, thanks for having me back. Justin,

it's great to be here.

Now, I have done episodes on Sabre Books before, so I think a lot of my listeners are familiar

with them, but just in case we have some new listeners or people who don't remember,

we're just going to explain the basic concept, which is that these are books put out by

the Society for American Baseball Research that are a series of articles or essays

around a single topic. So in this case, as the subtitle lets you know, the topic of this one is

looking at Jackie Robinson in movies, plays, fiction, that sort of thing, and taking a deep dive

into some of those topics. And you were the editor of this book.

You wrote some of the entries, not all of them, but as you were telling me before we got

started, you had a hand in everything so you're really familiar with everything in the book.

The first thing I want to ask you is, how did this idea come about? Why did you decide that it was

important to tell this particular aspect of

Jackie Robinson's story? Well, it started probably about two and a half years ago at this point,

I guess. Saber published a book last year called Perspectives on 42, which was a look at various

aspects of Jackie's life, both his professional playing career and his career post-playing as well as

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