Hey, everybody, I'm Justin McGuire, and this is Baseball by the Book, the only podcast that matters.

That's right, folks, you're once again listening to Baseball by the Book, the podcast in which we talk to authors of baseball books past and present.

Today we're joined by Chris Lamb. He is the chair of the Department of Journalism and Public Relations at Indiana University,

Indianapolis.

He is the editor, author, or co-author of 12 books.

Today he's here to talk about Stolen Dreams, the 1955 Canon Street All-Stars, and Little

League Baseball's Civil War.

Let's get started. Hi, Chris. Welcome to Baseball

by the book. Hey, Justin. How are you tonight? I'm doing well. Thank you so much for being here.

I was really interested in this book when I saw that you had read Nick. This is a topic that I

had been interested in for a while when I first read about

the Cannon Street All-Stars. I don't remember exactly one that was. It was fairly recently,

I think. And the reason I got interested in it was because I am myself a former South Carolinian.

I didn't live in Charleston. I live Upper State. But, you know, still I've been to Charleston

many times and know a little bit about the city.

So the first thing I wanted to ask you is to kind of put this story in context of Charleston.

For people who aren't familiar with the city, because I have listeners all over the country and indeed listeners in other countries who maybe don't know so much about

Charleston and it's, let's just say, it's very ugly racial history.

You wrote that no city is more connected to slavery than Charleston.

And I know this is kind of a tough task, but can you just give a quick summary of sort of

the racial history of Charleston and why this was the city where this happened?

Yeah. I mean, Charleston's this fascinating, beautiful city. And yet it's got this bipolar

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