Welcome to the Bear Marriage podcast. I'm Sheila Ray Gregor from Bear Marriage.com, where we'd like to talk about healthy evidence-based biblical advice for your sex life and your marriage. And I am joined today by my

daughter, Rebecca Lindenbach. Hello. I have been once again relegated to the second seat.

Yes. Because today... I enjoyed having the first seat. You enjoyed having the power.

Well, I was with... I got to sit in the big chair on the right hand side.

Yes, yes, you did because I took a vacation.

Air quotes, where I got no sleep because I was looking after the toddler is on toddler duty.

Well, your sister, my youngest daughter, had a baby. And on YouTube, we will put a cute picture of me with said baby. Yes, we will. And very, very cute. We love her so much. She is so lovely. She is the absolute best baby in the world. Out of the four of them so far. Oh, no, yes, actually. This baby is the easiest. She's the easiest. She's the case in terms of these four babies and and she is the cutest baby that is currently a baby yes of course her sister was the cutest baby when her sister was the baby

and vivian was the cute baby and valise the cute baby and alice was the cute baby yes but they are wonderful

and i'm so glad i'm my grandma and today we are going to do something I'm so

looking forward to this podcast. Yeah, this was, this was an idea that we saw on Thread.

I think it is. I think it was. So how do you judge a church by its website? So when you, when you are like,

I need to find a healthy church, I am so sick of going to an unhealthy

church, I want to find something healthy, how do I do it? And so we are going to take you step by step through how to figure out from a church's website if this is a good church or not. Yes. And it's going to be super fun. I hope so. I think it is. I have faith. And I'll tell you why this matters. Last week on the podcast,

and we are going to get to that how to do this in a minute. But here's the preamble.

You and Joanna were talking about our new study that just came out in the journal of the

scientific study of religion. Nicole Gallego was the one who took primary authorship on this one.

She was a rock star.

Yeah, and she used our data set from our book, She Deserves Better, where we surveyed roughly

7,000 women to find it about their experiences in church as teens.

And she was looking specifically at the effects of internalized modesty teachings.

So when you believe stuff like boys are visual in a way that girls will never understand,

all boys struggle with lust. Girls can dress in a way that incites boys to lust. Yeah, when you

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