The Welcome to the show this week, True Billy fans, we are joined by a very special guest to discuss a topic that

we've been discussing for many years now actually. I was made aware by a fan a few weeks ago that we had

started talking about this topic all the way back in 2019, maybe if not before that.

So we were like in on the ground.

I want to speak real quick

to the unimpeachable of the Trillbuds Crystal Ball Index.

We got a pretty stellar track record, honestly.

Well, yes, we are speaking with Austin Gaffney, is a freelance journalist is that correct

Austin yes and you know you just put out this investigation into App Harvest and when this came out it's

ingrist and when this came out many people were sending it to us and saying,

you know, you guys were vindicated.

I just want to say, like I'm not,

I'm not actually trying to take a victory lab

because like as your article explains,

like there are a lot of people harmed by the business

practices of that harvest and the

people that work there, but also even the surrounding communities

who had kind of placed some very large bets on this being a viable economic

alternative to coal mining to you know traditional farming to x y z

so yes or what's that Tom coding. Well that's the thing like I

traditional trades you know. Yeah I opened up the New York Times this morning.

Top of the page very first story I see. New York Times, from Unicorns to zombies, tech startups run out of time and money.

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