Episode 321: Understanding the Individualist and Enneagram 4's with David and Sissy

Raising Boys & Girls

That Sounds Fun Network

Kids & Family, Parenting, Christianity, Religion & Spirituality

4.9 • 1.9K Ratings

🗓️ 30 October 2025

⏱️ 43 minutes

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Fours bring depth, texture, and beauty to the world—helping all of us see what’s true and lovely through story, song, nature, and the poetry of everyday life. Their superpower is sitting with complex emotions and holding nuance, which can anchor families in grief and hard conversations. We also name a few common traps: chasing the “exceptional,” push–pull dynamics when others don’t respond just right, and letting feelings define identity. Helpful practices include simple, steady routines for the mundane, channeling empathy outward, and remembering that many feelings pass more quickly than they seem—often in about 90 seconds. For parents, Fours shine in attunement and deep listening—so pair that Olympic-level support with calibrated challenge and an invitation to move forward. Teach kids to sort feelings from truth, give Four girls room to feel without hopping on the rollercoaster, and point them toward purpose; with Four boys, expect some identity “trying on,” name the melancholy default without shaming, and keep both empathy and next steps in play. Growth and grace—always both. Mentioned in the podcast: Brave: A Teen Girl’s Guide to Beating Worry & Anxiety — Sissy Goff (referenced for parents of teen girls). “Someday Soon” by Wilder Woods (Bear Rinehart) — lyric about feeling like a stranger. Raising Boys and Girls episode #94 Giving Up Parental Control with Betsy & Gene Cashman . . . . . . Sign up to receive the⁠ bi-⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠monthly newsletter⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ to keep up to date with where David and Sissy are speaking, where they are taco'ing, PLUS conversation starters for you and your family to share! Connect with David, Sissy, and Melissa at ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠raisingboysandgirls.com⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ ⁠Owen Learns He Has What it Takes: A Lesson in Resilience⁠ ⁠Lucy Learns to Be Brave: A Lesson in Courage⁠⁠ . . . . . . If you would like to partner with Raising Boys and Girls as a podcast sponsor, fill out our⁠ ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Advertise With Us⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ form. A special thank you to our sponsors: QUINCE: Go to ⁠Quince.com/rbg⁠ for free shipping on your order and three hundred and sixty-five -day returns. THRIVE MARKET: Head over to ⁠ThriveMarket.com/rbg⁠ to get 30% off your first order and a FREE $60 gift. NIV APPLICATION BIBLE: Save an additional 10% on any NIV Application Bible and NIV Application Commentary Resources by visiting faithgateway.com/nivab and using promo code RBG. BOLL & BRANCH: Get 15% off plus free shipping on your first set of sheets at Bollandbranch.com/rbg⁠. Exclusions apply. KA’CHAVA: Go to Ka'Chava and use code RBG for 15% off your next order. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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0:00.0	Ever wondered what power is.
0:02.0	Power is transforming the sun into your own energy source.
0:06.0	Power is getting energy companies to pay you.
0:10.0	Power is enjoying your morning coffee, knowing you created the energy to make it.
0:15.0	Well, you and the colossal ball of fire in the sky.
0:19.0	Because with solar panels from Hive, the sun works for you.
0:23.0	Hive, know your power.
0:25.0	May not cover all electricity usage, roof and weather dependent.
0:27.6	Paid for surplus requires eligible SEC tariff.
0:42.1	Hey friends, welcome to the Raising Boys and Girls podcast.
0:43.4	I'm Sissy Goff.
0:47.8	And I'm David Thomas, and we're so glad you've joined us for this conversation.
0:49.2	Let's dive in. Okay, I feel like in this episode we need some really great background music.
1:01.1	And we have a lot of friends who are amazing creative Fours that could provide that for us.
1:05.3	That is the truth.
1:06.7	Which is a great lead in to talking about this incredible number.
1:11.4	I love all the things that Fours offered our world.
1:16.0	I've heard someone say how lacking we would be in art and music and beauty if we didn't have Fours.
1:23.2	And that couldn't be any truer.
1:25.4	And that's a great place to start.
1:26.9	We're going to begin with the incredible strengths of this number, and then we'll talk about
1:30.7	some of the struggles or challenges.
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