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Raising Boys & Girls

Episode 317: Understanding the Helper and Enneagram 2's - David and Sissy

Raising Boys & Girls

That Sounds Fun Network

Religion & Spirituality, Kids & Family, Christianity, Parenting

4.91.9K Ratings

🗓️ 16 October 2025

⏱️ 32 minutes

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Summary

In this week’s episode, we’re diving into one of our favorite Enneagram numbers—Twos, “The Helpers.” We love Twos. They’re the nurturers of the world—nurses, teachers, counselors, and caregivers who instinctively know when someone needs a little extra kindness. We shared how much we admire their hearts, but also how easy it can be for Twos to lose sight of their own needs. Whenever we’re speaking to a crowd, we always look for a Two—someone smiling, nodding, and radiating warmth that makes us feel right at home. We also talked about the challenges Twos face—the need for validation, the struggle to rest, and the importance of setting boundaries and practicing self-care. We wrapped up by calling Twos the “golden retrievers” of the Enneagram—loyal, loving, and endlessly giving—and reminding them they’re deeply loved, not for what they do, but for who they are. Book referenced in the episode: Emotional Agility by Dr. Susan David . . . . . .  ⁠Owen Learns He Has What it Takes: A Lesson in Resilience⁠ ⁠Lucy Learns to Be Brave: A Lesson in Courage⁠⁠ Sign up to receive the⁠ bi-⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠monthly newsletter⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ to keep up to date with where David and Sissy are speaking, where they are taco'ing, PLUS conversation starters for you and your family to share! Connect with David, Sissy, and Melissa at ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠raisingboysandgirls.com⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ . . . . .  If you would like to partner with Raising Boys and Girls as a podcast sponsor, fill out our⁠ ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Advertise With Us⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ form. A special thank you to our sponsors: QUINCE: Go to ⁠Quince.com/rbg⁠ for free shipping on your order and three hundred and sixty-five -day returns. THRIVE MARKET: Head over to ⁠ThriveMarket.com/rbg⁠ to get 30% off your first order and a FREE $60 gift.  NIV APPLICATION BIBLE: Save an additional 10% on any NIV Application Bible and NIV Application Commentary Resources by visiting faithgateway.com/nivab and using promo code RBG. BOLL & BRANCH: Get 15% off plus free shipping on your first set of sheets at Bollandbranch.com/rbg⁠. Exclusions apply. KA’CHAVA: Go to Ka'Chava and use code RBG for 15% off your next order.  Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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1:14.9

Welcome to the Raising Boys and Girls podcast.

1:16.3

I'm Sissy Gough.

1:20.7

And I'm David Thomas, and we're so glad you've joined us for this conversation.

1:22.1

Let's dive in. I love twos.

1:29.3

Call me, too.

1:32.0

I love them so much I married one.

1:34.6

And then I got so fortunate that my firstborn is a two.

1:37.7

I have twos all around me, and it's just a good thing in life when you have twos around you.

1:42.2

We have a lot around us.

1:43.5

We do. In fact,

1:44.9

it was fascinating for us to discover, not surprising, how many twos work under the roof of this

1:50.7

house. From our front office to our counseling staff, they are so beautifully suited for the

1:57.3

helping professions. Thus why they're called the helpers. I think twos are commonly nurses and teachers, counselors, so many of the caring professions,

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