Welcome to another episode of Listen, Learn, and Love, hosted by Richard Osler.

As you know, I've been plugging the book that's coming out in September and conclude our listeners to buy the book,

Listen, Learn and Love, embracing LGBTQ Latter-day Saints, leave a review on Amazon.

I've been noticing it's one of the top releases

in the Church of Jesus Christ of Lattery Saints and one of the top sellers. So we're grateful for you,

our listeners that are buying the book and sharing it with others. I walked into a local bookstore

here in Salt Lake in early September, Siegel Book Book and found a copy there. So for the first

time this week, I have a physical copy of the book, but it's a tribute to all of you that

contributed stories are LGBTQ Latter-day Saints and Parents. So it's a pretty long book. It's 300

pages, but it's really a needed book because it brings so many voices. This podcast that we're

doing today is with my friend Jenny Richards. Welcome to the podcast, Jenny. Thanks. Just by way of

introduction, Jenny is a married mother of four kids. She lives in Salt Lake City, not far from

me, the neighboring rivalry high school, to be exact, that usually beats us up, but we won't

get into that. She has children in high school, junior high, and elementary school. She grew up in

an active LDS home with seven children. She is the oldest,

and we're going to be talking about her younger sister, Emily, spelled E-M-I-L-E. So everybody kind of

see that name spelled that way in their minds. I think it's important. Emily has died by suicide in January of 2019.

So this is Jenny talking about her younger sister, who in prayer before we started, we invited to be here with us.

And we hope that as you listen to this podcast, wherever you're listening, that you will continue to fill Emily.

Because she's here,

and her work continues. She identified or identifies as non-binary and lesbian.

She came out about 10 years ago. She went on to get a math psychology degree at Westminster

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