Episode 312: Breakup on Purpose with The Angry Therapist, John Kim, LMFT
The Divorce Survival Guide Podcast
Kate Anthony
4.4 • 573 Ratings
🗓️ 27 February 2025
⏱️ 44 minutes
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Summary
John Kim, aka The Angry Therapist, joins me to chat about his new book, Breakup on Purpose: A Catalyst for Growth. A bestselling author, well-known for his raw, no-nonsense approach to self-help, John keeps it real by practicing full authenticity and transparency.
In this episode, he challenges us to rethink breakups. No one really talks about the different kinds of breakups, but John breaks them down into eight distinct types and explains how understanding which one you're going through can be a total game-changer.
We dive into how this framework can help you process your experience, focus your healing, and even turn your breakup into an opportunity for growth.
You'll also hear:
- Why understanding your specific breakup type can help you prioritize healing (4:55)
- John goes through all eight breakup types and explains the different responses they may create (6:07)
- How healing from divorce is different from other breakups (37:15)
Learn more about John Kim: John Kim, LMFT is a bestselling author with a new book out called: BREAK UP ON PURPOSE: A Catalyst for Growth. Kim blogs as The Angry Therapist, and practices complete authenticity and transparency with his many clients. He is also the bestselling author of: "It's Not Me, It's You;" "Single. On Purpose," and "I Used to be a Miserable F*ck."
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| 0:00.0 | When clients ask me if I should get back together with someone, I always ask what's going to be different this time? |
| 0:05.7 | If there's no secondary change, if people aren't coming back to the table different internally, like if you're just coming back with a new haircut or abs, the plane is going to go down again. |
| 0:15.3 | So you have to change the relationship dynamic. And in order to change that dynamic, people have to change. |
| 0:21.2 | There has to be new tools and awareness. And people have to have gone somewhere and come back |
| 0:25.7 | internally. |
| 0:30.2 | Welcome to the Divorce Survival Guide podcast, where we have open and honest conversations about |
| 0:36.8 | co-parenting, separation, divorce, and the hardest |
| 0:40.3 | question of all, should you stay or should you go? I'm Kate Anthony, your divorce survival guide, |
| 0:47.3 | and I'm here to help you navigate some of the roughest waters you've ever swum in and answer some of your |
| 0:53.4 | toughest questions. I've been to hell |
| 0:55.9 | and back. And now it's my mission in life to help you get to the other side of this process |
| 1:01.6 | with your sanity and your heart intact. Hey everyone. Welcome back. All right. So today I have with me, John Kim. You might know him as |
| 1:17.2 | the angry therapist on the social medias. And he's joining me today to talk about his new book, |
| 1:24.3 | Breakup on Purpose, a catalyst for growth. John essentially has identified eight |
| 1:31.0 | distinct types of breakup. In his book, and in this episode, he explains how understanding which |
| 1:38.0 | one you're going through can be a game changer and a catalyst for your growth. It's really cool stuff. The thing you should |
| 1:47.0 | also know is that John is life partners with Vanessa Bennett, who's been on the show a few times. |
| 1:54.4 | We have done episodes on codependence, and we have really great sort of rousing conversations |
| 2:00.1 | about codependence together. And if you |
| 2:02.8 | haven't heard those episodes, you should definitely go back. We also had Vanessa on the show to talk |
| 2:08.5 | about the book that she co-authored with John called It's Not Me, It's You. John is a member of the |
| 2:16.2 | Divorce Survival Guide family along with Vanessa, and this is a really cool conversation. |
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