Hello and welcome to Forever 35 a podcast about the things we do to take care of ourselves. I'm Dory Schifrier. And I'm Elise Hugh and we are just two friends who like to talk a lot about serums and other things.

And other things, but also serums.

So we're going to kind of check in with each other before we introduce our guests, but I wanted to just start,

Elise, by reading a text that we got.

Okay. Okay, this is what this person wrote. I'm loving Elise as the new summer co-host, but there's a buck.

Oh, no. But I have a request slash note.

It would be great to have more aimless banter and general

catching up between co-hosts before jumping to listen questions or interviews.

We are still getting to know Elise and hearing her casually chat with Dory is the greatest

way for us to get to know her better.

What is her favorite morning routine? Is she a coffee person?

Does she free mug? Inquiring minds must know the more we know her the more we will love

her the more we will keep coming back for what we all

crave a good chat between friends thank you for this podcast love that and thank you

for that text the gauntlet has been thrown at least. Yeah that's those that was a lot of questions.

That was a whole series of questions and I know free mugging is can be a really contentious topic here at Forever 35.

Yep.

You are a no free mugger, right?

I am a no free mugger because I don't trust myself to free mug.

I rarely free mug is the answer to the question because I am such a cluts that I have dislocated my shoulder just from standing on top of a hill.

I like accidentally slid down the hill and then my shoulder fell out.

It fell out of it. It sounds really painful. Oh it was really bad. It was like blinding pain. And so that's how klutzy I am, which

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