Hello and welcome to Forever 35 a podcast about the things we do to take care of ourselves.

I'm Dory Schaffreier.

And I'm Elise Hugh.

We are two friends who like to talk a lot about serums.

Yes we are.

Dory.

Elise.

How you doing?

You know, it's been, it's been just like an interesting week or two.

There's just been like a lot, like my parents were here.

My son graduated from preschool, he started a new camp, but like there's just like a lot of change happening.

Yeah, how was the visit with your parents? It was good. It was like

mostly pretty good and they stayed with us which you know can be a lot can can often

often go either way but yeah but it it was good our sofa in the playroom is a sleeper sofa.

Uh-huh.

And I think on Wednesday's mini episode I'm going to talk about some ways that I have made the sofa bed more comfortable because I was

the one sleeping on the sofa bed.

Oh yeah and sofa beds famously are so you end up feeling the springs underneath

underneath the pad you feel everything yeah they creak funny yeah it's not

yeah I'm eager to hear your assessment of modern day sofa sleepers.

How's it going with you?

The same thing, I mean we both had parents in town.

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