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It is Thursday the 8th of July 2021 and you're listening to Skeptics with a K the podcast for science reason and critical thinking.

Skeptics with a K is a production of the Mer. Skeptics for the case a production of the

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internationally. I'm your host, my call with me today is Marsh. Hello Alice and returning special

guest it's Emma. Hello hello Emma. Hello, we're in the same room.

We're in the same room. Have you been in the same room with Mike since Pando?

No.

No.

First time. First time I've seen Emma in 18 months, at least.

And neither have you seen bothered or acknowledged that at all.

I'm not even convinced when Mike walked in, you said hello,

Emma. I did say hello. See, oddly enough, Emma and I text each other quite a lot. Right. Which we didn't use to do before the pandemic. We're better made now than we were

we're better made now than we were when we used to see each other.

I take it all back then.

More on that later.

So I wanted to talk about a couple of episodes ago we did, I talked about the lab leak theory.

Yes, and I talked about how a lab leak is less likely than a zoonotic origin for COVID-19 because

zoonosis happens all the time and lab leaks are comparison. They happen but

they just don't happen a lot. yes and one of the reasons that I

argued that the lab leak theory was such a popular theory amongst people was that

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