Episode 306 - Suggs
Sodajerker On Songwriting
Sodajerker
4.8 • 912 Ratings
🗓️ 8 December 2025
⏱️ 51 minutes
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Summary
Madness frontman Suggs sits down with Simon and Brian to talk about the band's new Hit Parade compilation and the writing of their classic hits. From the whimsical charm of 'Baggy Trousers', to the poignant storytelling of 'Embarrassment', Suggs reflects on the balance of joy and pathos in songwriting, the influence of London's rich cultures, and the serendipitous moments that have shaped his artistic expression.
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| 0:00.0 | Hi there and welcome to Sodejoker on songwriting, Simon and Brian here and joining us today is an Ivan Novello winning British singer and songwriter and let's face it, National Treasure, best known as lead singer of cherished Scarpop Giants Madness. |
| 0:33.3 | The Nutty Boy's new career-spanning 45-track collection hit parade includes a staggering 27 top 40 hits |
| 0:39.7 | and is a welcome reminder, if one were needed, of the consistent brilliance of their outputs across the decades. |
| 0:45.5 | So what better time to chat with their charismatic frontman, |
| 0:48.6 | it's our tremendous pleasure to welcome the one and only Suggs to the show. |
| 0:52.9 | Our guest was born Graham McPherson in Hastings East Sussex |
| 0:56.1 | in 1961 and raised by his mum. When he was around eight he went to live with an ant in Wales for a |
| 1:00.9 | period, then lived briefly in Liverpool before moving to London when he was 11. Tiring of the stick |
| 1:05.7 | he was getting at secondary school for his Scottish surname, he rechristened himself Suggs after spotting |
| 1:10.2 | the name Pete Suggs while browsing through an encyclopedia of jazz musicians. He first crossed paths with |
| 1:15.1 | saxophonist Lee Thompson, guitarist Chris Foreman and Keyes player Mike Barson in his mid-teens in |
| 1:20.8 | their stomping ground of Hampstead, eventually joining their band The North London Invaders in |
| 1:25.4 | 1977. He'd auditioned at the suggestion of their drummer |
| 1:28.8 | John Hassler, who overheard Sugg singing to himself after a visit to the cinema to watch |
| 1:33.5 | American graffiti. They did their first gigs later that year at the Hampstead Trade Hall. |
| 1:38.3 | In 1979, they renamed themselves Madness after the Prince Bust the song, with bassist Mark Bedford, |
| 1:44.0 | drummer Dan |
| 1:44.5 | Woodgate and trumpeter Chas Smash rounding out the definitive lineup. |
| 1:48.2 | The same year, a residency at Camden's Dublin Castle won them a fervent local following, |
| 1:52.6 | and their first single, The Prince, released that summer on Jerry Dammer's two-tone label |
| 1:56.6 | made the UK Top 20. |
| 1:58.7 | Following this, they were snapped up by his stiff records, and a couple of months |
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