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Thank you. The Minds of Madness podcast. Listener discretion is advised. In July 2014, Samantha Krebs sequestered herself in a friend's apartment in Grand Shoots, Wisconsin. She was starting to get ready for the most important exam of her life.

She understood what every good student understands. Memory is always reliable under pressure. When the stakes are high, even the

most confident person can forget crucial details, mix up timelines, or stumble over their own words.

So she did what any serious student would do. She wrote everything down, page after page of detailed notes, rehearsing them

until every line felt memorized. But Samantha wasn't studying for an entrance exam or a set of college

finals. She was preparing for something else entirely. She knew police would be knocking on her door any day now, and when they did, she needed

to get her story straight, because if she didn't, she'd be arrested for murder.

Join me now, as we examine the murder of Joey Carnot, a father trying to rebuild his life for the sake

of his son. You'll hear how police uncovered three different versions of the same deadly

10-minute window, and what happens when loyalty overtakes truth, and the final goodbye is given to the man you've just left to die.

At 9.55 p.m. on July 18, 2004, 9-1-1 dispatch in Appleton, Wisconsin received a frantic call. The caller said his friend had suffered

a severe knife wound to the chest inside his own apartment on North Park Drive Lane. While

dispatch organized the emergency response, the operator asked if the wound had been self-inflicted, or if someone else

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