Hey there, I'm Sheila Ray Gregmore from Bare Marriage.com, where we like to talk about

healthy evidence-based biblical advice for your sex life and your marriage. And today,

we're going to talk about something really important. Have you ever heard people say to you, oh, you're complaining too much about how women are treated in the church because don't you understand that women and men are equal now? Like in all areas of society, we're equal and you're still complaining like it's the same as it was 100 years ago and it's not. It's so much better, so you have nothing to complain about. I've heard that a lot. And you know what?

Sexism is still alive and well. And it still really affects us. And sometimes we're not able to connect those dots and draw those dots. And so we think, yeah, I am complaining about nothing. But no, there's real stuff going on that explains so much of the trauma that a lot of women feel. and we got to do something about it. And so today we have an amazing interview with Dorothy Greco,

author for The Love of Women to talk about that. Before we do that, let me just say, hey people, if you are a Patreon, I love you, I so appreciate you. We have so many hundreds of patrons now. We have an amazing Facebook group for them. And you can join for as little

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someone that I have followed on social media for a long time. And I feel like I already know her, Dorothy Letel Greco. Hello, Dorothy. Hello. It's great to be with you, Sheila. Yeah. And I am so excited about your new book for The Love of Women. I totally forget your subtitle, but I forget my own subtitle. So you can forgive

me for that. What is the subtitle? It's uprooting and healing misogyny in America.

Lovely. Yes. And Dorothy, you've been a journalist for 40 years, and you can tell in reading

your book. It's very fact-based, lots of stories. It's very well documented. I really

appreciated it.

And before we jump into it, I just want to say that I know a lot of people who, when they

complain about sexism, they get pushback, saying, oh, that's how it was. It's all fine now.

And I think what your book does is it gives

people a way to talk about this again, you know, and it's that it's so valuable for that,

because it shows, no, it's not gone away. This is systemic. This is a problem. And I really,

really appreciate that. So thank you for doing

that. Yeah. I mean, don't we all wish that it was gone, that we didn't have to continue to talk

about that. But it is very much still a factor in the lives of American women and women across the

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