Episode 300: Charlie Bird, Gay Latter-day Saint, Author “Without the Mask”

Listen, Learn & Love Hosted by Richard Ostler

Richard Ostler

Religion & Spirituality

4.8 • 839 Ratings

🗓️ 11 August 2020

⏱️ 88 minutes

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Summary

My friend Charlie Bird, former BYU Cosmo, joins us to talk about his new book published by Deseret Book called “Without the Mask” which can be ordered at: https://deseretbook.com/p/without-the-mask-coming-out-and-coming-into-gods-light-ppr?variant_id=186572-paperback. I encourage everyone to read and share his book. His book helps all of us better see/use the contributions of LGBTQ Latter-day Saints in at Church, in our families and society. Charlie is back at BYU working on a master in social work. I encourage everyone to listen to this podcast (and if interested Charlie’s easier podcast which is episode 96). Charlie has great insights for all of us. I also encourage everyone to listen to the great podcast that Charlie and Ben Schilaty started called “Questions from the Closet” https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/questions-from-the-closet/id1504990147. Thank you for being on the podcast Charlie. You are a great man with a unique and beautiful life mission.

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0:00.0	Welcome to another episode of Listen Learning Love, hosted by Richard Osler.
0:10.0	My guest on today's podcast is my friend Charlie Bird.
0:13.1	Welcome to the podcast, Charlie.
0:14.6	Thank you.
0:15.6	We're going to talk about Charlie's new book out at Desert Boat called Without, Without the Mask. And it's about
0:24.9	Charlie's story as a gay Latter-day Saint. Charlie and I offered a prayer before we started. We hope
0:29.4	this podcast is helpful to our listeners. Those of you that are LGBTQ, those of you that are
0:35.2	LDS, those of you that just want to better understand this space.
0:39.4	Charlie's been on the episode before.
0:41.1	He's a returning guest.
0:42.3	He was on episode 96 back in February of 2019.
0:46.4	If you'd like to hear more of his story, you can refer to that podcast.
0:51.1	I listened to Charlie's podcast from LDS Living. Is that the platform? Yeah. That's episode
0:59.0	84. That's a podcast called All In, hosted by Morgan Davis. Great podcast. Charlie did such a
1:05.3	wonderful job. And this will be some of the same content of that podcast, but also we'll expand on some of the things.
1:12.8	But let's just start Charlie with this letter to the reader.
1:16.8	I love that, you know, you could even read it if you want to or just paraphrase what's in this letter to the reader introducing the book to readers.
1:27.3	Yeah, so before I started writing the book i was i was
1:29.9	kind of nervous and i was thinking you know with my entire life what would i put in a book like where
1:35.6	where do i go from here and before i started writing the book i wrote down a list of like everything i
1:41.0	wanted to cover and i didn't know how to organize it, how to do it.
1:45.7	And then I was thinking, you know, what is my why?
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