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The Kitchen Cabinet

Episode 3

The Kitchen Cabinet

BBC

Arts, Food

4.6726 Ratings

🗓️ 6 September 2025

⏱️ 28 minutes

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Summary

Jay Rayner hosts a culinary panel show packed full of tasty titbits.

Transcript

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0:00.0

I'm Rory Stewart and I grew up wanting to be a hero and I'm still fascinated by the ideas of heroism.

0:09.0

In my new series, I'm taking in the long sweep of history from Achilles to Zelensky and asking, what is a hero?

0:16.0

Simply doing your job, being a decent human being.

0:20.0

A true hero is someone who just kind of shines by

0:23.1

their own light and that light is to be recognised by others. The long history of heroism with me,

0:28.6

Rory Stewart. Listen on BBC Sounds. BBC Sounds, music, Radio, Podcasts.

0:39.5

Hello and welcome to the kitchen cabinet.

0:43.6

This week, thanks to the Lizzie Line, we've come to Brentwood in Essex, just a few miles to the east of central London, but woe betide anyone who assumes Brentwood is a suburb

0:48.3

of the capital.

0:49.4

Fiercely Essex, a few years ago this part of the world was put on the map, thanks to the

0:52.9

only way is Essex, an everyday tale of understated locals, which even had a food connection courtesy of the legendary Sugar Hut nightclub, RIP.

1:03.6

But even before then, it had an association with sugar.

1:06.5

Sir Alan Sugars' Amstrad had its headquarters here for many years, hoping not to find themselves fired

1:12.1

today are writers and cooks. Melissa Thompson, Malik Erdle, Jockey Petrie, Malika Basu.

1:16.7

Ladies and gentlemen, your kitchen cabinet panel.

1:22.4

Now near Brentwood is a little settlement called Pilgrims Hatch.

1:31.1

The name comes from 12th century pilgrimages to Canterbury through Brentwood,

1:35.4

a popular stopping place at the time before travelling on to Tilbury for the ferry.

1:39.5

Pilgrims from the Midlands would also pass through Pilgrim's Hatch en route to Brentwood.

1:44.1

These pilgrims must have been hungry, and if they were sensible, they would have packed some food. So, panel, what I want to know is what's in your packed lunch? Melissa Thompson, you go first. Back in the day, I used to be, like lunch for me was just a smaller dinner, and so my lunch would be pretty hefty. but then as I'm kind of reaching my older age, I love nothing more than a sandwich.

2:01.4

And my current obsession is just... and so my lunch would be pretty hefty. But then, like, as I'm kind of reaching my older age,

2:06.0

I love nothing more than a sandwich. And my current obsession is just, like, wafer thin ham,

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