What does it mean to be a good Christian parent? And does it involve spanking?

Welcome to the Bear Marriage podcast. I'm Sheila Ray Greigwer from Bearmarriage.com, where we like to talk about healthy evidence-based biblical advice for your sex life and your marriage. And today we're talking about healthy evidence-based biblical advice for your sex life, marriage, and your parenting. So I'm joined today by my husband Keith.

Hey, everybody.

Who's a pediatrician? Yep.

Yeah. And I'm excited about this conversation because we have two of my online internet friends who I've known for a couple of years have just written a new book, which is out in just a couple of weeks, The Myth of Good Christian Parenting, where they're looking at some of the really bad advice that was given to Christian parents and how that impacted

us long term. So great conversation coming. Before we get to that, I just want to say thank

you to everyone who got our course, the whole story. We had our special annual sale last week.

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doesn't work at all kinds of different things. So you can check that out on our YouTube channel.

And now, babe, should we get to it? Absolutely. All right. Here we go with our interview.

Well, I am so excited about this book,

The Myth of Good Christian Parenting and having Marissa Burt back on the podcast and her co-author.

Yes, Kelsey Kramer McGuinness. This is awesome. Welcome, Kelsey. Thank you so much. It's so great to meet you virtually and talk with you about this project. That is so related to your work. So I am so excited to talk to you about it. It is kind of like the great sex rescue, but for parenting in a lot of ways, which I love because it means I don't have to write it. So that's always good when someone else does it.

And I know, Marissa, you were on the podcast, gosh, must be a year ago talking about the excellent

wife. Maybe not that long. I don't know. It was a while ago anyway. Yeah, it was last summer.

I think, yeah. Yeah. Great. But so much overlap, right? Because family life teaching is this big, it's all tied together.

Yeah. So, I met you first on social media, I think. And I started noticing this woman who keeps talking about all of the problems with the Christian parenting resources in the same way that we did of the of the marriage and

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