Hello and welcome to Forever 35, a podcast about the things we do to take care of ourselves.

I am Kate Spencer and I over here, I'm Dory Shafrear.

Oh, hello over there, Dory Shafrear.

Hello!

Hello, friendly reminder, we are not experts, together we are two friends who do like to talk

a lot about serums and welcome to the pod, welcome one and all, welcome friends, welcome

enemies, welcome strangers, welcome family, we are excited you're all here.

We have a wonderful guest joining us later in the episode, but first I don't know Dory,

if it's okay with you, I thought I would kick it skin care, wow that's the dorkiest thing

I've ever said, I thought I would kick it skin care, oh god, I'm just glad that you recognized

how dorky it was so I didn't have to say anything.

You know what, having a child who's almost 13, it's like in the last six months she's

transformed and part of her job now on earth is to remind me what a fucking dork I am.

Oh, it's never been like this before, yes.

And to be fair, she's not wrong, I am ridiculous and I own it and I'm at peace with who I am,

I love myself, but like it is humbling, it is humbling to like, is it in the like mom

you're embarrassing me, Vayne?

Well that's like non-stop all day long from both of them, but it's also a little bit

like I am like I need reading glasses, I can never find them, I can't figure out how

to like do the software update on my phone, like I somehow have started to regress into

some sort of like stereotypical old person, oh sure.

And I remember my parents doing this and I think it's just like a part of, it's just like

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