Episode 284 - The Unknown History of BJJ With Robert Drysdale

The Chewjitsu Podcast

Eugene Tsozik

Wrestling, Wellness, Brazilianjiujitsu, Sports, Interviews, Mma, Bjj, Health, Chewjitsu, Injuryprevention

5 • 643 Ratings

🗓️ 6 November 2023

⏱️ 98 minutes

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Summary

On this episode of the podcast, BJJ black belt and ADCC Champion Robert Drysdale returns to discuss the history of Jiu-Jitsu and his new book, “The Rise and Evolution of Brazilian Jiu-Jitsu.”

Robert discusses his motivation behind writing his new book on the history of Jiu-Jitsu, the reception he has gotten from the book, how early Jiu-Jitsu rulesets were a reflection of the style of Jiu-Jitsu during that time, the Helio and Carlson Gracie rivalry, the difference between Helio and Carlson Gracie’s teaching styles and gyms, the most astonishing part about the evolution of Jiu-Jitsu, the important role of the second generation of the Gracie family to the evolution of Jiu-Jitsu, gym culture, why Carlson Gracie stopped teaching “self-defense” in his gym, how live rolling weeded out ineffective BJJ techniques, Robert’s Ideal training style and ruleset for Jiu-Jitsu, the idea of “Taparia” with training, how to keep Jiu-Jitsu from turning into an ineffective martial art for self-defense, creating a space and balance in the gym for different types of BJJ training, the importance of the IBJJF in keeping high standards for BJJ, why wrestling is a more "pure" martial art, Robert’s standards for BJJ Black Belt, how Robert trains as he has gotten older, and where Robert would like to see BJJ evolve to and where he thinks BJJ will go.

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0:00.0	What up, guys? Welcome to the Jiu-Jitsu podcast episode. I can't remember, but we've got Robert
0:05.4	Drysdale on the podcast today. So Robert Dreisdell was on the podcast last time he wrote a book,
0:10.8	Opening Close Guard, which was, you know, getting into some of the history, some of the surprising
0:14.5	history of Jiu-Jitsu. This one is, is the book title is The Rise and Evolution of Brazilian Jiu-Jitsu. He sent me a message several
0:24.3	months ago and told me that, you know, he had the book out and he was interested in being
0:27.3	on the podcast again. And I was like, okay, let me go read the book first. Because the first one
0:30.9	was there was a lot of stuff to talk about. I was like, let me go read this one. And I got into
0:35.1	it and read it. And again, the book, what it goes into is kind of
0:38.2	some of the unknown history for a lot of us. There's a couple of books that he cites and uses
0:43.3	in there that are in Portuguese, right? That obviously if you're American and you speak English and
0:48.4	you don't have access to the Portuguese language, then you're not going to have read it. And so,
0:53.4	again, he takes a lot of the source material and uses that and interprets it and also takes his experiences with Jiu-Jitsu and everything else with these interviews that he's gotten.
1:01.2	He said it took him a lot longer to create this book.
1:04.3	But again, it shares an unknown history of Jiu-Jitsu stuff that like we don't know about.
1:08.6	Like, for instance, in this podcast to learn about
1:10.9	who like started group classes so group classes were not always a thing that's not how you
1:15.8	originally trained jihitsu right i didn't know that i was like i figured that's just what
1:19.4	everybody did it wasn't what everybody did it didn't used to be that also it didn't used to be
1:24.2	called brazilian jihitsu or even gracy jiu-Jitsu. It was just jujitsu, right? Like, and then things changed a little bit, right? Like, the way that
1:31.0	people saw it changed and there was different things. And I didn't even realize how niche of a
1:34.7	sport it was. We'll talk about this on the podcast as well. Like, again, is Americans, you, if you're
1:40.3	listening to this or if you're a westerner like living in Europe or something, you probably, if you know more about the history than maybe you don't,
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