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Justice In America

Episode 27: Junk Forensic Science

Justice In America

The Appeal

News, Politics, Prison, Law, Criminal, Justice, Jail, History, Education, Incarceration, America

4.81K Ratings

🗓️ 8 April 2020

⏱️ 66 minutes

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Summary

Everyone who has ever watched a crime procedural believes that forensic science is the most reliable way to tell whether someone is guilty or not. But is that true? The reality is that a lot of forensic science is not exactly science at all. On this episode of Justice in America, Josie Duffy Rice and her guest co-host, Zak Cheney Rice, look at faulty forensic science. Radley Balko, opinion journalist at the Washington Post and author of The Cadaver and the Country Dentist, joins.

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0:00.0

When a crime lab analysts, your end review is done by a prosecutor, that's a huge problem.

0:11.6

There's a study that came out a few years ago that found I think in 14-15 states and then dozens of cities

0:16.8

Crime Labs are only paid when there's a conviction. If you're acquitted you don't have to pay any court fines if you're convicted you have to pay for the analysis of the crime led it

0:26.0

Well think about what incentive that sentence to be working the crime lab if I quit this person

0:30.4

There's no money that's going to come into our office for this case.

0:33.2

If I convict them, that's six, seven hundred dollars, it adds up, you know, after a while,

0:37.8

particularly if you feel like your lab's underfunded. Hi, I'm Josie Duffy Rice. And I'm Zach Cheney Rice.

0:52.8

And this is Justice in America.

0:55.2

Each show we discuss a topic in the American criminal justice system and we try to explain what

0:59.6

it is and how it works.

1:01.6

Thank you so much everyone for joining us today.

1:03.4

You could find us on Twitter at Justice Underscore Podcast.

1:06.6

We're also on Facebook at Justice in America and subscribe and rate us on Apple

1:11.1

Podcasts. We'd love to hear from you.

1:13.4

So we open the show with a clip from our guest, Radley Balco.

1:17.7

Radley is a journalist and an author.

1:20.6

He writes about criminal justice for the Washington Post and his latest book the Kadavr King and the country dentist is a really incredible story that is completely outrageous that deals with our topic for today which is

1:34.7

junk science and the failure of forensics and if you're at all new to this topic I

1:39.7

promise you're in for some surprises so today we're not going to have a word of the day

1:44.5

because this whole episode is about an entire field of criminal justice

1:48.0

that is almost entirely misunderstood.

1:51.0

And that field is forensic science. If you're like many people in

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