Hi, everyone, it's Kirk. The episode you're about to listen to is a lot of fun to record, but we hit a technical issue with the audio for my guest, Chris Remo, so I had to get a little creative with editing and use a backup recording of our Skype call. You'll hear a few little audio glitches in the early goings, then they go away by the second half, so hopefully that's not too distracting. Also, warning up front, we do include some Firewatch spoilers in our conversation.

You can hear and we're about to get into spoilers, but if you want to skip them, jump from around 19 minutes to around 25 minutes.

Okay, on with the show.

Welcome to Kataku's split screen. It is April 7th, and my name is Kirk Hamilton. I am one of your hosts. The other host, Jason Schreier, is still on vacation. He'll be back next week. So this week, I am joined by a very special guest. Our guest is a guy I've known a long time. He is a game designer,

a composer, and an all-around smart guy. He's worked on games like Ron Gilbert's The Cave,

Bioshock Infinite, and most recently Firewatch, where he works at Camposanto. He is co-host

and co-founder of Idol Thumbs, one of my very favorite video game podcasts. And he's generally good dude.

And I could just keep introducing him for like another 15 minutes, but I'm not going to.

Anyways, Mr. Chris Rimo. Hi, Chris.

Hey, Kirk. That was an amazing introduction.

Yeah, I wrote it down. I was reading it off of my screen. Could you tell that?

Did you actually? Yeah, I think that it's helpful to write them down because you find up kind of stumbling over stupid shit if you don't.

Oh man.

So yeah, I want to catch up with you after you, like, if you guys start doing podcast sponsorships

or whatever, we, on idle thumbs, we have just mid-roll ads.

And, you know, some of those sponsors are like, they come back every

week and they're very similar to sponsors you would hear on a lot of other podcasts. And I have

become an absolute machine at like just knowing all those talking points without, without like a

reference or anything. It's actually really fun. Well, so, and we don't have any sponsors on split screen yet, but I was wondering about that because I, you know, I listened to

Thumbs. One of the few podcasts I actually make time to listen to. And it is really funny. The whole

way that you guys do the sponsored thing, which I know is, I'm sure part of the sponsorship deal,

where you'll have this kind of whole conversation in the middle about, you know, whatever the item is.

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