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At Last She Said It

Episode 262: Big Ideas | Confirmation Bias

At Last She Said It

Cynthia Winward

Spirituality, Religion & Spirituality

4.91.1K Ratings

🗓️ 5 May 2026

⏱️ 80 minutes

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Summary

We all know change can be hard, but what about changing our own thinking? Can the discomfort associated with conflicting ideas keep us from fully engaging with them, or prevent us from objectively weighing data? Why does 'putting it on the shelf' sometimes feel like our only option? The human tendency to seek validation for existing beliefs is called Confirmation Bias. Religions and politics both depend on it; by naturally pursuing evidence that supports our current position, people maintain the conviction that "My team is the best." In Episode 262, Cynthia and Susan discuss confirmation bias, and some of the ways it may function among church members. As Brian McLaren explains, "People only change their minds when the pain of not changing surpasses the pain of changing."

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Anything that doesn't validate our existing beliefs, anything that doesn't support our

0:09.1

doctrine, anything that gives like a different slant to a story.

0:13.5

Yeah.

0:14.9

Is what I think we called anti.

0:17.2

Yes.

0:17.9

Yes.

0:18.3

I mean, we were specifically taught to only read and watch and listen to materials that

0:24.6

support church teachings. I think that was explicit.

0:31.2

Hello, I'm Susan Hinkley. And I'm Cynthia Winward. And this is at last she said it. We are

0:37.2

Women of Faith discussing complicated things.

0:39.7

And the title of today's episode is Big Ideas, Confirmation Bias.

0:45.7

Okay, but before we start, Cynthia, I'm going to just, I'm just going to do it.

0:51.7

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1:13.6

benefits of being a paid sub-dac subscriber. But today I'm just going to ask for straight-up donations.

1:21.7

So great either way that you want to support us. But we do have expenses. They continue six years in. I know that,

1:30.2

you know, we were novel a while ago and we're not now. But our expenses remain the same. And so

1:36.5

we could use some help. Our expenses have actually gone up because we're tired. And so we have

1:42.6

brought on a few more people to help us. And we have so many

1:46.5

good people that say to us all the time, please don't ever stop doing this. And it's like, well,

1:50.7

it's also really hard to do a job for practically free, even if it is a labor of love. Correct.

1:56.5

But you and I, you and I were recently looking into maybe commercials to kind of solve this problem.

2:03.8

Right.

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