Episode 258 - Train of Fraught (w/ David Sirota)
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🗓️ 9 March 2023
⏱️ 56 minutes
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With new legislation being advanced in Congress that's ostensibly designed to address the regulatory failures that led to two Norfolk Southern train derailments in Ohio this year, it's important to understand the causes of that accident and what would authentically help. Glenn Kessler's Washington Post fact check along with some other mainstream coverage suggest that a narrative is emerging that limits the cause of the accident to just one issue -- overheating wheel bearings. Is there a risk that defining the cause narrowly will curb legislation that addresses more systemic problems, like meager staffing lax regulations for hazardous materials? David Sirota and The Lever have done the most comprehensive reporting to date re who is responsible for the crash. Together, we walk though Kessler's fact check, fact check it in return, and discuss the mainstream media disinformation campaign to punt blame.
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Produced by Armand Aviram.
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| 0:00.0 | This is the process working. |
| 0:01.9 | This is the dynamic that we should want on every issue, where the Republicans see an opportunity |
| 0:07.8 | to criticize Democrats, where the Democrats deserve to be criticized, even if the Republicans' |
| 0:12.9 | motive is just a purely amoral opportunistic motive. |
| 0:15.6 | And the Democrats have to respond by actually doing something. |
| 0:19.6 | That's the dynamic we want on every issue. All right. It's always a pleasure to have David Seroda, veteran reporter, former Bernie speechwriter, |
| 0:56.3 | and of course the founder of the absolutely irreplaceable The Lever here on Bad Faith Podcasts, |
| 1:03.0 | but it's particularly a pleasure to have him in the context of the continually unfolding |
| 1:08.4 | disaster in East Palestine because no one has been doing as comprehensive, |
| 1:13.9 | as critical, as useful coverage of that disaster as you and your team have been doing over at the |
| 1:20.7 | lever, David. So thank you for joining us today. Thank you. Thanks for saying that. It's absolutely |
| 1:24.8 | true. That first article that you put out shortly after the crash |
| 1:28.5 | that was so comprehensive has been a touchstone for me personally in the discussions I've been having |
| 1:35.2 | over at the Hill and other places. I truly don't know what I would do without it, especially because |
| 1:40.8 | we've seen an emerging counter-narrative that seems to be working over time |
| 1:46.9 | to absolve Norfolk Southern, the rail company at issue here, and frankly, politicians in both |
| 1:55.8 | major corporate parties of any responsibility for what transpired in East Palestine. |
| 2:01.7 | And chief among those is this fact check that came out by Glenn Kessler last week on the |
| 2:09.1 | Washington Post titled So Far Trump's Rollback of Regulations can't be blamed for Ohio |
| 2:14.4 | train wreck. |
| 2:16.1 | Now, what's funny, I saw some people, because they're just mad about |
| 2:19.4 | this because of the so far, which, you know, to be fair, I mean, I think some people are |
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