Episode 250 - Race, Class, Cop City (w/ Matthew Clair & Kamau Franklin)

Bad Faith

News, Comedy, Politics

4.5 • 2.8K Ratings

🗓️ 9 February 2023

⏱️ 71 minutes

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Briahna speaks to Kamau Franklin, founder of Community Movement Builders and a long-time organizer/attorney/writer in Atlanta who has been working against Cop City and around policing broadly, and Matthew Clair, a Stanford professor of sociology with a focus on how race and class inequalities in the criminal legal system are embedded in and reproduced through the attorney-client relationship. The panel discusses the proposed cop training development known as Cop City, the recent murder of Cop City protester Manuel "Tortuguita" Páez Terán by the police, the murder of Tyre Nichols and debates over whether "racism" could have played a role in the killing of a black man by black police officers. The panel then debated the utility of framing criminal justice reform as a "black" issue, the failures of the Biden administration's criminal justice efforts, and the role black mayors play in affirming the status quo.

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Produced by Armand Aviram.

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0:00.0	music
0:04.1	Todd
0:07.3	Todd
0:10.4	um
0:19.4	Deb
0:21.7	I am thrilled to be joined by an all-star, so I call it a criminal justice panel.
0:41.2	We have for the first time on Bad Fade's podcast, Matthew Clare.
0:44.6	He's an assistant professor of sociology at Stanford University, an author of the acclaimed
0:50.2	privilege and punishment, how race and class matter in criminal court.
0:54.3	Welcome, Matthew.
0:55.2	Thanks for having me.
0:56.3	Or I should say Professor Clare, my apologies.
0:58.2	I should confess to the audience that I've known Matthew since he was about two years old.
1:03.1	And basically you're a younger sibling.
1:05.1	Exactly.
1:06.1	So I apologize for any lapses in professionalism.
1:09.6	And also for the first time on Bad Fade's podcast, Kamau Franklin, who was founder of Community
1:16.0	Movement Builders, an organization that was originally based out of New York, if I
1:19.3	understand it, but is now in Atlanta, which is domain to some of the subjects we'll be
1:22.5	talking about today.
1:23.5	And also co-founder of Black Power Media.
1:26.5	Welcome to the podcast.
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