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The National Security Law Podcast

Episode 25: So Much National Security Law News…We’ve Reached Our Limitrophe

The National Security Law Podcast

Bobby Chesney and Steve Vladeck

Courses, Politics, News, Education, Government

4.8646 Ratings

🗓️ 28 June 2017

⏱️ 71 minutes

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Summary

Had you seen the word "limitrophe" before Justice Breyer used it in his dissent in Herndandez v. Mesa? Neither had Professors Vladeck and Chesney, but that doesn't stop them from exploring the Supreme Court's action in that cross-border shooting case, with its implications for Bivens, qualified immunity, and the extraterritorial application of the Fourth Amendment.  Nor does Travel Ban fatigue stop them from unpacking all the details in Trump v. IRAP, the Supreme Court's per curiam ruling partially lifting the nationwide preliminary injunctions involving President Trump's travel-ban order.  Completing the SCOTUS trifecta, your hosts also flag the cert. grant in a case involving Persian antiquities given to Indiana Jones in the 1930s...well, sort of, you have to listen to find out what that's all about.  In the back half of the episode, discussion turns to the sudden appearance of military commission charges against Hambali, the GTMO implications of a recent story about SOF manhunting operations attempting to capture Islamic State leaders in Syria, and the legal implications of accepting intelligence from and otherwise becoming enmeshed in detention centers run by the UAE in Yemen (in light of a story alleging torture at those centers).  Oh, and then there's an assessment of the legal implications of Paul Manafort making a post-hoc registration as a foreign agent.  All that, plus Steve rubs Bobby's nose in the fact that Chris Paul apparently is going to become a Rocket and not a Spur....

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0:00.0

Hello from Austin and welcome to episode 25 of the National Security Law podcast, brought to you by the Strauss Center at the University of Texas.

0:18.1

Today is Wednesday, June 28th. I'm Bobby Chesney. And I'm Steve Vladek and Bobby.

0:22.9

Chris Paul is coming to Texas. Yeah, but wrong team. Wrong team. Chris, Chris Paul, I know you

0:32.2

listen. You are breaking my heart. As a former Wake Forest faculty member, I feel a special tie to you.

0:39.7

And yet you did not, you're not going to come to the Spurs.

0:42.8

How's there you?

0:43.9

I'm just crushed.

0:45.0

Mix Houston, a pretty good team for next year.

0:47.2

Yeah, I will admit, it makes me a little bit nervous.

0:49.5

Yeah, a little bit.

0:50.6

So Bobby, episode 25, you might say it's our first quarter quell. Good heavens. All right.

0:56.4

Bad things happen in the quarter quell. You know, but it makes for good drama. And every week,

1:00.7

we seem to have new dramatic developments. This week is no exception. We have some new dramatic

1:04.1

developments. We have some Supreme Court developments. We have some military commission developments.

1:09.1

We have some, I don't know, developments everywhere.

1:12.4

You know, for a final Monday that produced opinions that weren't actually, you know,

1:18.4

full-fledged opinions, there was still a lot for us to sink our teeth into.

1:21.2

Well, it's crazy.

1:21.7

So I was, I mean, as you know, I cover the Supreme Court for CNN.

1:25.3

I helped them with their coverage.

1:26.1

I was actually there on the plaza with them Monday.

1:29.6

And so we're going through the opinions one in the time.

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