Episode 24: An AUMF for Westeros?

The National Security Law Podcast

Bobby Chesney and Steve Vladeck

Courses, Politics, News, Education, Government

4.8 • 646 Ratings

🗓️ 20 June 2017

⏱️ 76 minutes

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Summary

In today's episode, Professors Chesney and Vladeck discuss the Supreme Court's decision in Ziglar v. Abbasi in more detail than you could possibly want. What's that one even about, you ask?Damages for alleged violations of the Constitution arising out of the massive post-9/11 immigration sweep. Let's just say it was not a good result for the plaintiffs, nor for fans of Bivens doctrine (poor Steve!). Next comes both an international law and domestic law analysis of the episode on Sunday when a US aircraft shot down a Syrian Air Force jet. How does the unwilling/unable doctrine match up with the right of a sovereign government to use force against a non-state actor rebelling against it, where that non-state actor is also engaged in coalition operations against the Islamic State? And does either the 2001 AUMF or Article II carry with it authority to defend coalition partners? Finally, there is an update on the Travel Ban litigation, followed by a spoiler-laden, rambling dissection of what lies ahead in Game of Thrones Season 7. Because, why not?

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0:00.0	Hello from Austin and welcome to episode 24, the National Security Law podcast.
0:15.0	It's brought to you by the Robert Strauss Center at the University of Texas.
0:19.0	It's Tuesday morning, June 20th, and I'm Bobby Chesney.
0:22.6	And I'm Steve Vladik, and Bobby, it's the summer?
0:25.9	It is definitely the summer.
0:27.8	It's gotten a bit warm and thirsty here in Austin.
0:30.3	You know, it's funny, I was in Washington yesterday, actually standing outside of the Supreme Court
0:34.0	when a whole lot of stuff was going down, and it was like 82 and a little muggy
0:39.2	you know pretty typical for sort of June in D.C. And everyone was complaining about and I was like,
0:44.4	this is lovely. This is brisk. This is like 20 degrees cooler than it is back home. Fetch me in my
0:50.6	cardigan. Not quite, but you know.
0:56.4	It's funny how where you stand is a function of where you sit.
0:56.9	Absolutely.
1:00.7	You know, you get used to anything, but it is definitely, summer's arrived and not a moment too soon.
1:01.3	Indeed.
1:01.7	So, Bobby, it's Tuesday, June, you know, 20th, right?
1:05.3	I think if my math is right.
1:06.7	We're actually, it's an unusual morning edition of our podcast.
1:10.1	That's right. We've actually organized ourselves a bit more.
1:12.3	You can tell it's summer.
1:13.2	We have a little more free time.
1:14.8	And, you know, we should be, we should be watching the live broadcast of the Senate
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