In the words of David Chalmers, the heart problem of consciousness is the problem of experience.

When we think and perceive, there is a wear of information processing, but there is also a subjective aspect.

As Nagel has put it, there is something it is like to be a conscious organism.

This subjective aspect is experience. When we see, for example, we experience visual sensations. The felt quality of redness, the experience of dark and light, the quality of depth in a visual field.

What unites all of these states is that there is something it is like to be in them.

All of them are states of experience.

Debating the question, can science explain consciousness today, is Philip Goff and David Papineau.

Philip Goff is an associate professor in philosophy at Central European University in Budapest.

Goff's main research focuses on trying to explain how the brain produces consciousness.

In short, Goff thinks that we need to radically rethink our understanding of matter in

order to explain consciousness in something like the way

Einstein radically rethought the nature of space and time. David Papineau is a professor of

philosophy at King's College London and the City University of New York Graduate Center.

Papineau is an accomplished philosopher in metaphysics, epistemology and the philosophy of

science, mind and mathematics. In relation to our question today,

Papineau is a defender of the A-Posteriori physicalist solution to the mind-body problem.

Links to all of Goths and Papineau's works can be found on our website, the panseicast.com.

This fascinating debate was recorded at the University of Liverpool, London campus. Thank you to all of the staff at the University of Liverpool London campus.

Thank you to all of the staff at the University of Liverpool, London,

and thank you to Philip Goff and David Papineau for taking part in today's debate.

Thank you. Hello and welcome to episode 25 of the Panpsychast.

I'm Jack Symes and I'm joined once again by Mr. Andrew Horton.

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